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    Default Winchester 1897 riot or trench?

    A local gun store just put a Winchester 1897 up for sale. I don't know anything about these. A short description from memory. 20 inch barrel, no heat shield. At the end of the barrel underneath there were 2 marks looking like some kind of clamp was on the end of the barrel. They want $325. It is in fair condition. What to look for on these things? Are trech guns marked M97 or marked to indicate it was a trench gun and not a riot? From a quick look over there were no marking indicating it belong to the military.
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    You have to post photos. There is not way to determine anything from your description.

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    Sorry, I am at work typing quickly and from memory. I will see if I can get some pictures later today. Serial number is E 674816. It has cyl on 20" barrel. Bead at end of barrel. I don't know enough to determine if the barrel has been cut to 20". It has a plastic buttplate.

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    The serial falls within the WWI trench range. More than that no one can tell you without pictures.

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    Should have three cuts in the end of barrel..probably had a poly choke on it at one time and removed.

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    Hummmmmm , interesting . Not up on WW1 guns , so I'll leave that to others . It is ( or was ) a trench barrel at one time . Either the barrel was cut taking off one of the handguard notches or it has an extended tube mag I'm not familiar with , using the third notch to hold it on.
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    It's a World War I trench gun that the bayonet adapter has been cut down and lug ground off. Stock is not original.
    Last edited by trenchcrazy; 10-02-2014 at 10:05.

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    What would be a good price? Is there any other way to make sure it is a trench gun? I don't know squat about these things, more of a 1903 and Garand guy.

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