Thanks guys. I pulled down a few rounds and was surprised to find the bullets only weigh 156 gr. The last time I pulled 8MM milsurps they had 196 gr. Which I replaced with 180 gr. Sierra sp's and hunted with them and they were fine. I have bubbaized Mausers that I bought cheap because they were already "sporterized" when I bought them. I just finished the third one and and I wouldn't trade it for a brand new Rem. 700BDL. The smithy did a great job. I will post pics later.