I mean the 25" barreled ones, not the carbines. All the pics I've found online show barrels that were turned down on the end to accept the bayonet lug aka top band, and front sight. But recently I ran into a 25" barrel that hasn't been turned down. Were there some of the short rifles NOT made from cut downs? Maybe the Japanese had been keeping an eye on developments elsewhere, like our Board of Ordinance and Fortifications Krag rifles that had 26" barrels, and opted to try the shorter rifles themselves. The barrel still has the original sights on it, leaf is longer than the carbine, shorter than the rifle's.