Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 16
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    6,060

    Default Under what circumstances

    could the federal government call for/enforce 'martial law'? What happens under 'Martial Law"? What are the limits forced on citizens?
    With Biden and O'Bama running things; how likely are they to do that?

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Alabama, Gulf Coast Region
    Posts
    9,492

    Default

    When you control the law you can do pretty much any thing you desire. We see that happening every day.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Deep in the Ozarks
    Posts
    15,860

    Default

    Martial law can be proclaimed by any commissioned officer -- of course it can be unproclaimed by his superior.

    Martial law suspends the courts and transfers their power to military tribunals.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Southern Ohio
    Posts
    8,363

    Default

    Major, your question is what can/will happen IF civilian control of the AO is lost AND the military have to come in and restore order. It will be harder for those living urban, than for us who live rural. Back in 2009 the History Channel did a show on what can/will happen if a major epidemic hit the world. Under those terms Martial Law will be needed.
    Sam

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Vern Humphrey View Post
    Martial law can be proclaimed by any commissioned officer -- of course it can be unproclaimed by his superior.

    Martial law suspends the courts and transfers their power to military tribunals.
    Didn't President Lincoln suspend the writ of habeas corpus and imprison political leaders of Maryland?
    Sam

  5. #5

    Default

    Where in the Constitution is the provision for declaring Martial Law and suspending the Constitutional rights of Citizens?

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Bay area, Calif
    Posts
    14,985

    Default

    Might beats Rights

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Southern Ohio
    Posts
    8,363

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by dogtag View Post
    Might beats Rights
    "ALL power comes from the barrel of a gun!"
    Sam

  8. Default

    We'll find out when Slo loses.

    Actually we'll find out when we find out what all the newly imported terrorists have been told to do.
    Last edited by barretcreek; 10-25-2023 at 01:29.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Houston, Texas
    Posts
    9,256

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by S.A. Boggs View Post
    Didn't President Lincoln suspend the writ of habeas corpus and imprison political leaders of Maryland?
    Sam
    Yes, and in more places than just Maryland. However it must be remembered that Habeas Corpus corpus is not a "right" but a "Privilege." While the Constitution treats it as an important concept it also allows it to be suspended in cases of "Rebellion" or "Invasion," or for "Public Safety" (Art.1 Sec. 9) which is pretty darn broad, probably too broad IMHO. Lincoln came under a lot of pressure over the legality of his unilateral suspension of Habeas Corpus without congressional approval and in 1863 the Congress ratified his decision and also, in that legislation stated that the President and his agents were to be held blameless for any suit filed related to anything they did re: Habeas Corpus before Congress acted.

    One victim of the suspension of Habeas Corpus was an Ohio Copperhead Congressman named Clement Vallandigham (How's that for a moniker??) who was arrested for speeches sympathetic to the enemy. When he applied for Habeas Corpus his request was knocked down since he was deemed to come under the rebellion and public safety exceptions mentioned above.
    Last edited by Art; 10-25-2023 at 02:25.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Southern Ohio
    Posts
    8,363

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Art View Post
    Yes, and in more places than just Maryland. However it must be remembered that Habeas Corpus corpus is not a "right" but a "Privilege." While the Constitution treats it as an important concept it also allows it to be suspended in cases of "Rebellion" or "Invasion," or for "Public Safety" (Art.1 Sec. 9) which is pretty darn broad, probably too broad IMHO. Lincoln came under a lot of pressure over the legality of his unilateral suspension of Habeas Corpus without congressional approval and in 1863 the Congress ratified his decision and also, in that legislation stated that the President and his agents were to be held blameless for any suit filed related to anything they did re: Habeas Corpus before Congress acted.

    One victim of the suspension of Habeas Corpus was an Ohio Copperhead Congressman named Clement Vallandigham (How's that for a moniker??) who was arrested for speeches sympathetic to the enemy. When he applied for Habeas Corpus his request was knocked down since he was deemed to come under the rebellion and public safety exceptions mentioned above.
    Wonder if he was related to the murdered Ohio prison guard @ Lucasville in94?
    Sam

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •