.58 rimfire dimensions

[Carlsr]

Would anyone here know the case dimensions for the first Allen .58 rimfire.
I have searched over and over but with no luck.
Also what is the proper name for this round? 58 Miller, 58 musket, 58 gatlin???
Thanks for any help 😊

[Johnny P]

According to Cartridges of the World:
.58 U.S. Musket (Berdan)

Bullet Diameter .589
Neck Diameter .625
Base Diameter .646
Rim Diameter .740
Rim Thickness .062
Case Length 1.75
Ctge. Length 2.15

[Edatbeach]

According to Cartridges of the World:
.58 U.S. Musket (Berdan)

Bullet Diameter .589
Neck Diameter .625
Base Diameter .646
Rim Diameter .740
Rim Thickness .062
Case Length 1.75
Ctge. Length 2.15

This is the centerfire cartridge.

[Dick Hosmer]

According to Hoyem, Vol. 1, item "RFR35 U.S.Allin, Miller, Springfield, 1866":

Bullet Diameter .590
Neck Diameter .619
Base Diameter .630
Rim Diameter .710
Rim Thickness (not provided)
Case Length 1.17
Ctge. Length 1.69

[Carlsr]

Thanks to all who responded. I'm searching for a way to shoot a first Allin so that it would not just be a wall hanger but first I need to win the auction I'm in.
Found a company, rcc brass in Texas I believe. They produce brass with an offset primmer for obsolete rimfire cartridges. He has dimensions for the 58 us musket only and I see according to Dick it is a U.S. Allin, Miller. The cartridge is made for use with a .22 blank (starter pistol blank) as the primer. Would this method of firing work for a large load of black powder?

[Tom Trevor]

Have a friend at the range that does exactly this with his rifle and so far works fine. get a couple and set yourself up to reload them on the range slow but works.

[Carlsr]

Thanks Tom,
Just got the price for 50 of these little gems, I say gems because for 50 pc. it's 320.00 smackers!!!
Will make sure I have rifle in hand before buying these.

[Tom Trevor]

the idea is you get five and learn to field load. far fewer cases to clean up Not to mention savings.

[Carlsr]

Unfortunately Tom, There is a 50 piece minimum : (

[Dick Hosmer]

They must be individually hand turned and drilled for the blank, etc. I can think of no production process that would not cost way more than it would be worth.