Philippine constabulary carbine, is this legit?

[Bolomauser]

If interested in more information about the PC rifle, check out this post at KCA.

http://www.kragcollectorsassociation...num=1548938927

Fantastic, thank you.

[Dick Hosmer]

I’d certainly be interested in his opinion. I’m pretty firmly now of the belief that this guy isn’t a Philippine gun, but that just tells me what it isn’t, not what it is!

Sorry, to be late for the party, but I do not believe that specimen to be official work, for all the reasons previously stated. As to the size issue - the native troops were a great deal shorter in stature than American soldiers and the 30" barrel was awkward for them, hence the conversions. It was then noted that such guns would also be well-suited to juveniles, hence the "school guns". The bayonet of choice was the M1905, which restored some of the "reach" when needed. This bayonet latches differently, thus GENUINE specimens of the arm will have a bevel on the bayonet lug

[butlersrangers]

The Philippine Constabulary opted to use Krag bayonets on their short rifles, rather than model 1905 Springfield Rifle bayonets. Once again, size and convenience dictated what was practical for this famed Police Force.

PC-Luzon-TBW1.jpg

[Story]

As good a thread as any.

Girard College had the first lot of 350 cadet rifles, IIRC.

Look close.

"Rear admiral W.T. Cluverius, commandant of the Philadelphia Navy Yard, reviews Girard College cadets as part of celebration of 188th anniversary of birth of Stephen Girard. May 21st 1938"
https://digital.library.temple.edu/d...7coll3/id/4903

"Lieutenant William J. Heger of Company B looking over a rifle as the cadets line up for inspection." Undated.
https://digital.library.temple.edu/d...7coll3/id/4891

"Accompanied by Major William Foster, U.S.M.C., three officers of the Women's Marine Corps Reserve look over Company D, which they adjudged the best of the four companies in the school's annual competitive drill. The young women are Captain Cathryn Fodermair (from left) and Lieutenants Betty W. Ballantine and Rosalie Herchert." June 10th, 1944.
https://digital.library.temple.edu/d...7coll3/id/4872

[Dick Hosmer]

That's REALLY cool, especially the second one. The rifle(s) couldn't be shown any clearer. Thanks for sharing.

[Kragrifle]

Great photos!

[butlersrangers]

'Story' - Very interesting Girard photos. Thank You for posting.

[kj47]

Really cool photos, thanks for posting.