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    Or bombing Tehran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyman View Post
    no nukes,

    if we drop a nuke, it will be a very bad thing in today's world,

    and an excuse for some other nuke welding country to follow
    Didn't say to use it, just that it is in our available arsenal...let them wonder about it's use.
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    They know all too well we have nukes despite John Kerry's attempt to disarm us. I think they want to be nuked so they can show the world they have them too OR they have an agreement with Russia that they will nuke us. There has to be something behind them flashing their big balls while there's no goats around.

    Also, if Iran can start a war a large portion of U.S. men and equipment will be sent to the middle east where if Russia were to attack us, the U.S. mainland and other U.S. owned territory's would be more vulnerable.

    Trump made the announcement today that China gets 91% of its oil shipped through the straight of Hormuz. Other countries receive their oil in the same manner while countries like Kuwait can only ship out through the straight. These countries are setting back and doing nothing depending upon the U.S. to do everything so I feel it will become a UN matter soon.

    Meanwhile, that doesn't change things on U.S. property being attacked or shot down.
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    Allen wants the Chinese navy patrolling the world's oceans? Ask the British about naval supremacy and when they lost it.
    "The first gun that was fired at Fort Sumter sounded the death-knell of slavery. They who fired it were the greatest practical abolitionists this nation has produced." ~BG D. Ullman

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    If our drones can be shot down that easy, kudos to the Iranians
    Read, think, UNDERSTAND, comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roadkingtrax View Post
    Allen wants the Chinese navy patrolling the world's oceans? Ask the British about naval supremacy and when they lost it.
    are they better than the Russian Navy?

    do they have a fleet of ocean going tugs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lyman View Post
    are they better than the Russian Navy?

    do they have a fleet of ocean going tugs?
    They just make their own island chains.

    Speaking of potential Russian disasters. Check out this:

    https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/06/28...ereport.com%2F
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allen View Post

    Also, if Iran can start a war a large portion of U.S. men and equipment will be sent to the middle east where if Russia were to attack us, the U.S. mainland and other U.S. owned territory's would be more vulnerable.
    During the Napoleonic Wars, the English Parliament was very nervous about Napoleon's plans to invade England. They asked the First Sea Lord to talk to them about it. Lord St. Vincent said, "I do not say Bonaparte will not come, gentlemen. I only say he will not come by sea."

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    You guys are old school. Cyber warfare and space is the next major arena. We don't need to launch anything if we can shut down their systems. Look at all the hacking that's been done to us. I'd bet a can of ammo the Iranians have tried it against us.
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    If they shut down the straight of Hormuz, it would only be a US problem if we wanted it to be. Most of the oil passing there goes to Asia, then Europe, and finally 7 to 8 % to the US, which we could easily absorb. Let the Saudi’s and the Chinese step up for just once, or at least be equal partners. Russia would not intervene if Both the US and China along with the Saudis were a coalition. Iran’s radar sights would have to be overwhelmed followed by missle sights, than the pounding that follows should be legendary.

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