Lend Lease M-1 on AA

[SPEEDGUNNER]

This is a pretty one, and seems like it went cheap. Is the market going soft on Garands?

https://www.gunauction.com/buy/14901982

[Roadkingtrax]

In that price range, the market is always soft unless deep pockets are looking. Nice rifle, fair price.

[RCS]

There are a few parts that are not consistent with a Lend Lease rifle from that time period. Some examples a follower assembly should be a
revision 8 and the elevation knob is checkered. I am unable to view a good photo of the cartouche. These rifles had mint SA GHS cartouched
stocks when sold. Without viewing the internal parts or Lend Lease stamps it is difficult to estimate value but may have sold for more than it
was really worth

[Bill D]

RCS, that was my feeling also.

[RCS]

Thanks Bill D for your thoughts on this rifle. I bought my first Lend Lease rifle while in high school and have collected data sheets on these rifles for
a long time. A person could buy a revision 8 follower for around $69 and a SA checkered elevation cap for $100, but you just don't know if that is
all you need. There is a $400 to $600 price difference between a fake rear sight group and original rear sight group - especially the pinion and flush
nut. I would have wanted photos of the pinion and flush nut to be safe. Also I would have wanted a better SA GHS cartouche for the money as it is
about impossible to find a really nice SA GHS stock and if you do - it will run $1200 to $1600

[Sunray]

Whoever refinished that rifle ruined any collector value doing so. No red paint on the refinished stock, for example. Even though the S/N is in the Brit Lend/Lease range there's nothing about that one that proves it is such a rifle. Kind of odd they'd refinish the whole thing except for the gas plug and cylinder lock though.
British proofs have nothing whatever to do with Lend/Lease. Every milsurp sold through England has the 'BNP' stamps. Nothing indicates that rifle was ever accepted by the Brits either. No broad arrows anywhere.

[JimF]

. . . . . Every milsurp sold through England has the 'BNP' stamps. Nothing indicates that rifle was ever accepted by the Brits either. No broad arrows anywhere.

Not quite, Sunray . . . . not quite . . . .

My lend-lease came back state-side through the London proof house, so there are NO “BNP” stamps.

Nor are there any “broad arrows” anywhere. —Jim

[RCS]

Early S-A 8-40 (exc condition) barrel with London proofs.

Dave McClain provided some data sheets on two four digit rifles with S-A 8-40 dated
barrels, one also had the London proofs like the photo. Believe these were direct conversions
from the gas trap. P1010023_1_0019_019.jpg

[JimF]

Yup, RCS . . . .

That’s the London stamping I have on my LL also.

It shows the raised arm with the simitar over the letters “NP” . . . instead of the crown over the “BNP” for the Birmingham proof house.

Someday, I would like to find out if the Birmingham mark, “BNP”, stands for “Birmingham Nitro Proof”, or “British Nitro Proof”.

Someone must know, eh?

[dryheat]

If you run across a LL here in the states it's probably going to have been messed with some. Case in point: A buddy picked one up at the gs. It was being sold by relatives of the fellow who brought it over from England years(and regulations)ago. It was his shooter. He varnished it as usual. He replaced the flush nut sights with NM sights. A couple of other things. It didn't have an uncut oprod. But it is still pure in the respect that it wasn't "corrected" by Bubba. Well, then it got "corrected" some and to me that's where the history ended. End of story.

While we're on the subject; what was the point of Proofing everything that went though Britain? I have never understood this.