NRA supports bump-stock regulations...........

[Sandpebble]

Thanks for the reply.

For those that don't want to have to look it up - http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...ars-says-colu/

OK. They had numbers. I have a calculator.

From 1968 until 2015 is 47 years. (Their cut-off date, not mine.) They used the year of Robert F. Kennedy's assassination. He was actually assassinated in June, but I gave them the whole year in order to lower the daily death count. With an average of 365 days per year (because I did not want to calculate leap years), is a total of 17,155 days.

1,516,863 deaths (their number) divided by 17,155 days equals a little more than 88 deaths per day - everyday of the year - for 47 years.

Statistics - you gotta love them.

You would think 88 gun deaths per day - everyday - for 47 years would be . . . ummmm . . . common knowledge? I guess you can learn (or at least read) something everyday.

Thanks, again for the info.

And I thank you Sir for a polite response on what is typically a very hostile forum towards any viewpoint not wanted to be heard....

Even as a gun lover I have think hard about those stats ...... even if a lot of them "were only" suicides

[S.A. Boggs]

Thats right Swampy ... its called concessions. We make them.... or lose. As Togor aptly put it ... give up a domino

Why do "we" have to make concessions or is it like waving a signed paper, "Peace in our time!"...does the name of British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlin ring a bell? To compromise is to loose, Pelosi has already stated what the National Socialists want in the way of total control. Some of you guys are so bright that you can't see the forest for the trees! Listen to Sandpebble and he will lead your guns directly to the ovens with this appeasement talk. Sandpebble is one of "them" not one of "us" haven't you figured this out by now? Himmler [who was head of the German secret police and SS] said that if German's wanted to have a gun then they should join the Waffen SS! Pebbles is pushing EXACTLY what the other National Socialists of 80 years ago did and people are buying into it.
Sam

[Sandpebble]

Why do "we" have to make concessions or is it like waving a signed paper, "Peace in our time!"...does the name of British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlin ring a bell? To compromise is to loose, Pelosi has already stated what the National Socialists want in the way of total control. Some of you guys are so bright that you can't see the forest for the trees! Listen to Sandpebble and he will lead your guns directly to the ovens with this appeasement talk. Sandpebble is one of "them" not one of "us" haven't you figured this out by now? Himmler [who was head of the German secret police and SS] said that if German's wanted to have a gun then they should join the Waffen SS! Pebbles is pushing EXACTLY what the other National Socialists of 80 years ago did and people are buying into it.
Sam

To compromise is to lose you say ...... 59 dead 520 injured in ten minutes...... thats not losing ?

[Dan Shapiro]

And please explain how you could even imagine why those 59 dead and 520 wounded wouldn't draw attention away from... statues...

Evidently they weren't that "hot" on statues to begin with. I can hardly wait to see what the liberal "cause de jure" will be next week.

As I noted in another thread, the NRA just screwed Democrats, by saying they had no problem with regulations on "bump stocks". Some are "indignant". Why? Most of us had never even heard of "bump stocks".

[dobek]

Why make anything illegal, is that the argument? Why can't a guy have as much firepower as he wants? Surely you agree that a line gets drawn somewhere, for the good of civilization, yes?

I am all in favor of people having the freedom to purchase as much firepower as they want.

I have ideas about what is good for civilization - and it doesn't include the government as the solution to all problems.

So willingly give up your rights - beg a bureaucrat for permission to purchase items - I'm just sorry I have to go down with the ship along with you.

Steve

[leftyo]

To compromise is to lose you say ...... 59 dead 520 injured in ten minutes...... thats not losing ?

you know what losing is... thinking that banning a gun part would have prevented a nut job form committing mass murder, that is losing!

[S.A. Boggs]

To compromise is to lose you say ...... 59 dead 520 injured in ten minutes...... thats not losing ?

Something you are familiar with, the CDC says in an "average" year 88,000 people die from ethanol issues and it costs the U.S. about $2.05 per drink. More people are killed with your beloved ethanol then my firearms. Sad as the factors at Vegas are they do not compare to what happens on the nation's roads on a daily basis. Ever work an accident scene, I have. Ever watch a 19 year old girl die from a drunk driver, I have. I attended more accident scenes the shootings WHAT AGOUT YOU? Know what it is like to extract a victim from a DUI, I do. Ever clean up a back board that had blood and brains on it, I did. I wish I could say that I didn't but I can't. You know that burnt human flesh smells like burnt bacon? I am so sick and tired of people dying because of other people. I just wish that the human race could live by the "Golden Rule" and we don't. God gave us a beautiful place to live, why do we continue to screw it up?
Sam

[Sandpebble]

Something you are familiar with, the CDC says in an "average" year 88,000 people die from ethanol issues and it costs the U.S. about $2.05 per drink. More people are killed with your beloved ethanol then my firearms. Sad as the factors at Vegas are they do not compare to what happens on the nation's roads on a daily basis. Ever work an accident scene, I have. Ever watch a 19 year old girl die from a drunk driver, I have. I attended more accident scenes the shootings WHAT AGOUT YOU? Know what it is like to extract a victim from a DUI, I do. Ever clean up a back board that had blood and brains on it, I did. I wish I could say that I didn't but I can't. You know that burnt human flesh smells like burnt bacon? I am so sick and tired of people dying because of other people. I just wish that the human race could live by the "Golden Rule" and we don't. God gave us a beautiful place to live, why do we continue to screw it up?
Sam

now I know you are full of xxxx.... because it doesn't smell like bacon

[S.A. Boggs]

now I know you are full of xxxx.... because it doesn't smell like bacon

Go away pebbles, you have no idea of what I went thru...I am tired, I was there, I saw the horror of the gasoline fire and the man burnt from head to toe. I helped pick him off the ground and gently put his body on our stretcher, yes he was still alive but not for long. Pebbles, you tire me and bring back memories that I buried long ago and for what, your arsine and obtuse ravings? I am like Vern, I don't have to prove a damn thing to you or anyone else on this board!
Sam

[Dick Hosmer]

Want bump-stocks? Fine - no problem - just classify them as what they in fact are, under the NFA. That should weed out a LOT of the wanabees.