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    Late 70s? didn't a destroyer run under the bow of a CV?

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    Quote Originally Posted by barretcreek View Post
    Late 70s? didn't a destroyer run under the bow of a CV?
    You're probably thinking of either the USS FRANK EVANS or possibly the cruiser USS BELKNAP.....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melbou...vans_collision

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Belknap_%28CG-26%29

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    Default Navy orders pause in operations, safety review after collision


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    I remember seeing the stern section of the USS Frank Evans tied up to the pier in Subic bay for almost a year before being taken away. Couldn't help but wonder how something so foolish and deadly happened. I also remember several near misses we had on the USS Mars while operating off the coast of VN. Port and starboard bridge lookout watches did indeed miss big stuff. These days, seeing all of these collisions, I can't help but wonder if the lookout watches are still a manned position ?? Could the new era bridge watch be glued to some sort of screen and not be looking outside at the real world at all ?? I guess in this new age that accidents still happen, new technology and all, but it still comes down to lack of qualified command personal serving on the bridge. Like it or not, heads need to roll on this one, no excuse for it. Number one job of the captain and his officers is to keep the ship and crew safe, if they can't, they don't belong at sea.
    Chris
    Last edited by Chris W.; 08-22-2017 at 09:51.

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    What Flag(s) were the container ship and tanker operating under?? Mainland China???? Sound suspicion to me.

    If shafat alley flooded, did the shiip roll that far to suffer damage or is the "alley" not enclosed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris W. View Post
    I remember seeing the stern section of the USS Frank Evans tied up to the pier in Subic bay for almost a year before being taken away. Couldn't help but wonder how something so foolish and deadly happened. I also remember several near misses we had on the USS Mars while operating off the coast of VN. Port and starboard bridge lookout watches did indeed miss big stuff. These days, seeing all of these collisions, I can't help but wonder if the lookout watches are still a manned position ?? Could the new era bridge watch be glued to some sort of screen and not be looking outside at the real world at all ?? I guess in this new age that accidents still happen, new technology and all, but it still comes down to lack of qualified command personal serving on the bridge. Like it or not, heads need to roll on this one, no excuse for it. Number one job of the captain and his officers is to keep the ship and crew safe, if they can't, they don't belong at sea.
    Chris
    Take the personal devices away from the crew and have them use their Mk 1 eyeballs to keep watch. That's how you do it.
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    I can't help but wonder if half of the bridge watch was on their smart phones playing games or watching porn while they still had cell service. I'm with Dolt on this one, if the watch can't keep the ship safe watching some new CRT device, it's time to go back to old school eyeballs. The thing that I think needs investigating is why this sudden rash of collisions at sea ?? Can't think of a single captain that I served under that I liked, but I have to give them credit for their most important function, they got me and the boat home.
    Chris

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    There thousands of space satellites flying around above us. Not one has collided with another. OK, it's a way bigger space to work with and space nerds are in charge. The world is changing. Shipping is like airlines. It's Manhattan. If your are going to drive great big chunks of metal around in very congested water with a slow response time, expect to play bumper cars.
    If I should die before I wake...great,a little more sleep.

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