Arisaka Type 44

[dave]

I thought the three inter-locked rings over the 'mum' indicated school rifle? I saw one like that, few years back.

[jim-d]

I thought the three inter-locked rings over the 'mum' indicated school rifle? I saw one like that, few years back.

Nothing like that on this rifle

[Deano41]

I thought the three inter-locked rings over the 'mum' indicated school rifle? I saw one like that, few years back.

The Three rings on the "Mum" indicates the rifle was taken out of active service with the military. The rifle could have been given to a school, or sold to another country, as in the case of the Type 30 rifles sold to England and Russia during WWI.

[chucklamb]

I think a safe bet on the year of production would be the first year for T44's, if it is a "no" series, first variation [there were 3 variations] Tokyo rifle = four intertwined circles behind the serial number.
The known serial number range for the "No" series T-44's is 7-56827 with no "O's" in front of the #'s for IJA military rifles.
Your rifle was probably made in 1912 if it is one of these. A picture of the left side of the receiver would help to identify the manufacturer and series and a time period for its DOB. Hope this helps.

Chuck

PS. My resource book is "The Type 38 Arisaka" By Francis Allan and Harold W. Macy, Edited by Joseph P. Koss, "Banzai" Special Project #8, 2007, Pgs.313-350.

[Deano41]

Chuck, we have the same book. His carbine is a Kokura, series one. Check page 335. :>)

Page 57 explains the use of the two zeros preceding 197, it was to maintain a five digit serial number.

[chucklamb]

My not reading previous posts carefully has its disadvantages :]
Thanx Deano41.

Chuck [lambo35, Gunboards Forums]

[Deano41]

My not reading previous posts carefully has its disadvantages :]
Thanx Deano41.

Chuck

We are all friends here on CSP ( well most of us) Mr. Lamb. :>)

I buy books on every firearm I acquire. I enjoy learning about the history and workings of them. Not having a memory, I rely on the books for information.