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    Default SRS Check Request 1896 Krag Carbine R. Rider? 32809

    I wondering if someone would be kind enough run this serial number for me. I picked up one today at a local gun shop with this serial number and appear to be all the correct parts, and marks. I would be interesting since it is in the middle of the "Rough Rider" range if it makes a hit. Thanks in advance. The number is 32809

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    I'll look this evening.

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    Almost forgot. 32827 is the closest listing that I found - 10th Cav, FWIW (which isn't much - only hits count).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick Hosmer View Post
    Almost forgot. 32827 is the closest listing that I found - 10th Cav, FWIW (which isn't much - only hits count).
    Grenades and artillery beg to differ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter5 View Post
    Grenades and artillery beg to differ.
    Absolutely true, but also, completely unrelated to the point at hand. Even consecutive-numbered weapons could have had entirely different histories.

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    "Close" can get your attention!
    Last edited by butlersrangers; 05-23-2015 at 01:24. Reason: picture was changed and no longer correct

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    10th Cavalry or "Buffalo Soldiers" I have read. They have quite a story in Cuba. I see the govt. decided to admit African Americans into the service during the Span Am War and justified the doing do by saying "persons not susceptible to tropical diseases".
    From the published History of the 10th Cavalry"...
    "The Army viewed its "Buffalo soldiers" as having an extra advantage in fighting the war in Cuba, Puerto Rico, and the Philippines. There was an unfounded belief that African-Americans were immune to tropical diseases. Based on this belief congress authorized the raising of ten regiments of "persons possessing immunity to tropical diseases." These regiments would later be called "Immune Regiments"."
    The story continues on...
    "For the assault on San Juan Hill the Tenth Cavalry would be part of the Second Brigade which was composed of the First Cavalry Regiment, Tenth Cavalry Regiment, First Volunteer Cavalry Regiment, and a detachment with four Hotchkiss guns. Different elements of the American army began moving toward Santiago as early as June the 30th. On the march the artillery had to stop 143 times in three miles, due to poor road conditions."
    Just the possibilities are quite interesting...but I know a miss is as good as a mile.
    Thanks, Dick


    http://www.spanamwar.com/10thcavhist.htm

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    The 10th Cav predates the SAW - black troopers served on the frontier (particularly Texas) during the Indian wars. As a matter of fact, there were black regiments (referred to as U.S.C.T. - United States Colored Troops) during the Civil War as well. Of course, all the officers were white - I do not know when that changed - WW2? Later?

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    I have read an account by a Northern Michigan N.G. Volunteer, who witnessed the storming of El Chaney (Santiago, Cuba) by Black U. S. Regular Infantry. "It was the bravest thing he ever saw"! They were the first into that fortification and captured the Spanish Colors, only to have them taken away by the officer of a white regiment, who wanted the 'Honor' for his men.
    Probably one of the greatest slights was during WW-1, when U. S. Black soldiers had to serve under the French Flag and French Officers, in order to get into combat.
    Last edited by butlersrangers; 05-23-2015 at 01:28. Reason: picture was replaced with one of M1 barrel

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    The French, among many others including the relatively few enlightened Americans, were shocked at the US for its bigotry and prejudice. Read up on the heroics of Eugene Bullard to see how far it extended. The US has had a lot of things it could have done better and sooner but even after WW2, Mr Bullard was mistreated by the US military. De Gaulle invited him to the Arch de Triomphe in the 1950s and still President Eisenhower on down could not and did not see fit to do the right thing.

    http://www.dodlive.mil/index.php/201...ro-during-wwi/

    http://www.amazon.com/Eugene-Bullard.../dp/158838280X

    El Caney was recently studied by US archaeologists.

    http://www.buffalosoldiers-washingto...t%20Report.jpg

    http://www.kearneyhub.com/news/local...41ba3ca73.html





    Quote Originally Posted by butlersrangers View Post
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    I have read an account by a Northern Michigan N.G. Volunteer, who witnessed the storming of El Chaney (Santiago, Cuba) by Black U. S. Regular Infantry. "It was the bravest thing he ever saw"! They were the first into that fortification and captured the Spanish Colors, only to have them taken away by the officer of a white regiment, who wanted the 'Honor' for his men.
    Probably one of the greatest slights was during WW-1, when U. S. Black soldiers had to serve under the French Flag and French Officers, in order to get into combat.
    Last edited by Shooter5; 10-11-2014 at 12:51.

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