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    Just got back from the range shooting my "new" M1a for the first time. I used some "ZOI" ammo that was made in Turkey and sold on sale at WallMart for $9.97 for 20. I also shot handloads of 42gr. 4895 w/ 150 gr. GI pulled bullets. I didn't expect a lot this first time. Was I surprised. The gun shot all 1" groups and a few 3/4" groups. I was impressed. The only issue I have is the elevation needed 24 up clicks to zero it. I didn't like the thin (.062) N.M. front sight and will replace it with a std. thickness sight and probably cut it down some. Is it common to need that much elevation?
    The rifle needs it's gas cylinder shimmed as the lock nut bottoms at 180 degrees off. However, as long as it shoots this good, I won't touch a thing, except the front sight.
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    What distance were you shooting? 24 clicks is way too much for just about anything less than say 600 yards. Could be that the previous owner filed the sight down for just that purpose. Replacing it with a standard front sight will probably bring you down to 8 or 9 clicks for 100 yards. My M14 clone has a NM front blade that hasn't been messed with and I'm using 10-11 clicks up for 200 yards

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    Maybe the sight is a NM type of thing with 1/4 clicks or the like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sully View Post
    Maybe the sight is a NM type of thing with 1/4 clicks or the like?
    Hmm, didn't think about that. It could be 1/2 minute or less on the rear sight. Maybe both front and rear have been modified.

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    Elevation clicks would be unchanged with a NM . The hood splits the elevation change .
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    Distance was 100yds.
    Front sight looked to be std. height. It is marked NM .062
    When rear sight is elevated 24 clicks, it looks just like a Garand sight that is elevated 24 clicks. As I adjusted, it moved 1 MOA each click.
    What other things could cause the need for so much elevation? Keep in mind, the gun shoots great groups.

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    Well Dev I don't have an answer. I'll have to defer to our resident armorers/gunsmiths

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    What other things could cause the need for so much elevation?

    The stock.

    I purchased a NM M1A in 2000, it came with a wood GI stock. Elevation for 200 yards was 9 clicks. Later, I changed to a GI fiberglass stock. Elevation for 200 yards was 2 clicks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Shapiro View Post
    What other things could cause the need for so much elevation?

    The stock.

    I purchased a NM M1A in 2000, it came with a wood GI stock. Elevation for 200 yards was 9 clicks. Later, I changed to a GI fiberglass stock. Elevation for 200 yards was 2 clicks.
    That makes sense to me. If that's true, I would assume the stock is putting downward pressure on the barrel which it is supposed to. Mine is probably pulling too hard. I would hate to change anything as the gun shoots great. I think I'll work on the front sight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emmagee1917 View Post
    Elevation clicks would be unchanged with a NM . The hood splits the elevation change .
    Chris
    Chris, now they make 1/2" MOA disks that can be glued on.

    https://www.creedmoorsports.com/shop...ight_Disc.html

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