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    For long range its a 77 or 80 and RL15 or Varget

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    What's "long range"? Where Maury and I hang out, "Long Range" is 1000 yds, and you ain't hitting squat with a 77 or 80! 600 yds is "Mid-Range", which is why it's an "MR" Target!

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    If you have never shot at 1000 yards, 600 yards is long range regardless of what it says on the target.

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    And if you have as much as I have......you'll NEVER confuse, let alone attempt to equate "Mid-Range" range with "Long Range"! 600 yds is "Mid-Range", just like it says on the target and in the HP Rule Book!


    "Knock her down!".......the three happiest words in Long Range shooting!
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    Well, even a rulebook pedant like me will acknowledge that there's "long range" and there's "Long Range"

    It's always slightly amusing to hear folks refer to the 200yd bay at the local range as "long range" but you have to take it all in context.

    Still, there's nothing magic or mysterious about shooting true "Long Range." Slow Prone is Slow Prone; if the shooter can do it at 100 he can do it at 1000. It usually takes a different load and a little different rifle and it's real easy to get blown off the whole 6x6 by a gust or switch but the front sight, holding, and squeezing are all still the same

    Try it sometime

    Maury

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Kepler View Post
    Yes, I have experience with 2520 in .30 cals.......ALL OF IT BAD! It meters well.......and that is the end of anything positive I can say about it. In every other aspect, it defines "erratic"! Temperature sensitive, horrendous lot inconsistencies, and simply random velocity variations. It's garbage that simply will not make a precision load

    FWIW, you should have gotten other advise and bought Vihtavuori N140.....I KNOW Champions Choice had it last week. You ever shoot N140......you'll never touch 4895 or 4054 again!
    John, where are components on their site? Also what about N135?
    Phillip McGregor (OFC)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maury Krupp View Post
    Well, even a rulebook pedant like me will acknowledge that there's "long range" and there's "Long Range"

    It's always slightly amusing to hear folks refer to the 200yd bay at the local range as "long range" but you have to take it all in context.

    Still, there's nothing magic or mysterious about shooting true "Long Range." Slow Prone is Slow Prone; if the shooter can do it at 100 he can do it at 1000. It usually takes a different load and a little different rifle and it's real easy to get blown off the whole 6x6 by a gust or switch but the front sight, holding, and squeezing are all still the same

    Try it sometime

    Maury
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hefights View Post
    Words of encouragement are extremely welcome
    Then let me second them encouraging words......but I gotta tell ya.....Maury's leaving a few things out, but then I'm sure you'll figure that out! Reading wind accurately at 1000 yds will make shooting 600 in any conditions far easier....not to mention being one of those "life experiences" that is hard to forget.

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    I would love to shoot at 600 or 1000 yards. I would love to see how well I could shoot my 1898 Krag at 1000. As for the Garand, I would still shoot M2 Ball ammo... good enough for the military at 1000 yards is good enough for me!

    Unfortunately, my long-range options are limited here in the greater Detroit area. I think there's a range with a 300 yard distance, but it's private. There are a few 200 yard ranges (also private) that I could go to with an invitation.

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    BS! I live near Toledo and have plenty of places to shoot...and so do you! For 600, you have Washtenaw right in your back yard (off of Ellis Rd. in Ypsi Township) and Camp Custer. MRPA runs a regular 1000 yd match series at Grayling, not to mention ORPA at Camp Perry! Oh, no matter what you think.....you might shoot AT something at 1000 yds with M2....but do NOT expect to hit much! M2 drops subsonic at about 800 yds, which makes that the end of the line for predictable performance

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