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    Default 30-06 loose pockets and pierced primers

    I loaded 60 LC cases with more than 10 loads and 60 once fired Remington with a load of 46.5 imr 4895 with a 155 gn bullet and WLR primers. The LC cases have some pierced primers on the radius of the primer and a loose pocket. Please explain why cases with loose pockets have primers that pierce at the radius.
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    did you length size the old brass ??
    and what did you shoot them in
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    I've been using the RCBS X-Die, trim once and forget it. This happened on the same shoot with an M1 and a 1903. Both have minimal headspace.
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    I'm guessing what you are seeing is gas leakage around the primer pocket from an eroded primer pocket. In my guns this results in an eroded breech face, primer pocket diameter.

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    Ten loadings is about all your going to be getting and it's time to recycle those cases. I think Doug is right and leakage around the primer is what your seeing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuna View Post
    Ten loadings is about all your going to be getting and it's time to recycle those cases. I think Doug is right and leakage around the primer is what your seeing.
    The x die does stop cases from stretching thereby needing a trim, thereby leading to the thin spot above the case head. I knew life would be ended by a loose pocket or split neck, but I'm seeing actual pinholes in the primers, Winchester LR's. Some of the Korean brass I've loaded has had a little leakage around the pocket, but this is new. Yes is was a PITA to photograph this, lol!


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    Try some CCI primers. They seem to be tougher and fit tighter in the pocket. That's why I switched to them.

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    Check the very tip of your firing pins . The gas leakage might have eroded and roughened the tips , giving a sharp burr that's leading to the piercing .
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    Its sounds like your an experienced reloader but just to cover the basics I assume you are getting a full seat on the primers...correct. Similar issue came up with friend who was a novice. In inspecting some of his reloads he hand about 1 in 10 with not fully seated primers. No offense if you've loaded for years but this reminded me of that so I mentioned it.

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