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    Default More Carbine markings

    I have posted here before about my one and only carbine but as I am about to clean it I thought I’d take a few pictures. I have always been aware that it is a probably a Mixmaster but I see that as being more authentic then a retro collection of matching parts. However I have taken pictures this time of the stampings in the hope that the wise men of this forum can tell me more about my carbine.
    To recap it is a late Inland serial number 7396787. Barrel is Inland dated May 1945. The receiver was stamped M2 but the 2 has been over stamped with a 1. It is in a pot belly M2 stock with the M.R.cartouche and the cross cannons. There is the number 10 stamped in the sling well.
    Barry
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    Barry, What you have listed is pretty much correct for your serial number except for the barrel band and the safety. The band is a late war post war replacement and not one made for Inland as is the safety. Most likely changed during it's passing through Mt. Rainier Ordnance Depot. The stock is marked in the sling well IO and not 10 as it was made for Inland. Should be a real good shooting carbine for you.

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    Barryeye,

    You had me going there for a minute untill I saw that you were from NZ. Could you post a pic of the 1 over 2 stamp? I've never seen that treatment in person. I'd expect a gun made that late would have been M2 stamped. Any idea when and by whom it was overstamped? Thanks.

    Bob D

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    Many thanks Tuna. So I can take it that it is all Inland apart from the saftey and barrel band? It is a nice shooter.

    Pictures as requested Bug. I have no idea who did the overstamp. I do know a few carbines made their way to NZ via Vietnam.
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    You have a late war M2/1 Carbine. Meaning the reciever was made as a M2 (full automatic) reciever and when the need was filled it was overstamped with the 1 to make it back to an M1 carbine. However in the eyes of the law its still Automatic and as such is dangerous to own. However the rest of the gun is pretty much correct for a late war or korean war m1/2 carbine. Inside there should be several cutouts on the trigger guard that will tell you if it ever was full auto. Gorgeous. I love the pottbelly stock.

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    I would hazard a guess that your receiver was made and stamped about May 1945 as all of Inlands carbine production for April and May 1945 was M2 production. By June Inland was again making M1 carbines and used that M2 stamped receiver to make an M1. Your stock most likely is original to your carbine as it was all that was being used by that late in the war.

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    I so want to reply to the above with pictures but some reason I am unable to drag my uploaded pictures into the space for posting? Puzzled but I am working on it. I am not ignoring you :-).
    Barry
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    Barry it appears to have an M2 hammer are there some spacers to fill the gap between the hammer and the trigger housing. Normally the disconnector block sits in that space and is part of the fire selector mechanism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuna View Post
    I would hazard a guess that your receiver was made and stamped about May 1945 as all of Inlands carbine production for April and May 1945 was M2 production. By June Inland was again making M1 carbines and used that M2 stamped receiver to make an M1. Your stock most likely is original to your carbine as it was all that was being used by that late in the war.
    Tuna,
    Never heard this story before. If true would that mean that such a M1 overstamp left Inland as an M1 and would therefore not fall into the once a MG always a MG.,ATF classification.
    Where can this be documented.
    Jim C
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    Sorry Jim but yes it would fall into the once a machinegun always a machinegun here in the US. But this one is over stamped with the 1 over the 2 and Barry is in New Zealand where they are a bit more logical about stampings on receiver. But here anytime a receiver is stamped with a 2 it will always be a machinegun no matter what is stamped on top of the 2 even if done at the factory.

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