Leatherneck

[4F4Nam]

We have a friend, a Korea era Gyrene, who has ask me the value of his H&R Model 165 Leatherneck rifle. I must admit to being somewhat befuddled on this. I cannot find any for sale on the 3 main auction sites, and my 4 year old Blue Book only gives a top price of $125. The rifle is in above average condition with the Redfield receiver sight.
I just feel that it should be worth a little more than what the book shows, in the real world.
Hope those of you here with some experience with the 165 can help us out.
I am thanking you in advance!

Ed

[n64atlas]

The 165 was made from late 1945-around 1947. It was a rifle made to be sold to the public. The model 65 was the trainer. As such, it doesn't have the same collector value, the M65 or the the later MC 58 has. Most will sell in the $200-$300 range depending on condition and if someone wants it. I just got one in trade for a 10/22. I collect the Reising designed firearms. In this pic, the top two are M65's. The second M65 was from the Jeff Reising estate. Jeff was the great nepheu of Eugene Reising, the designer of these rifles. The third is a 165 and the bottom is a 150 delux. The 150 and 151 were called Leathernecks also.

[4F4Nam]

Very helpful, and I thank you. Yes, I did see that the Model 65 seemed to list at a much higher price than the 165. Thanks for the clarification. I felt like I should tell the man he shoul be able to get $200 for his gun, but was not sure.
BTW, Nice rack!

Ed

[n64atlas]

I also have a 1920's Reising "Its a Bear" 22lr standard veloity only, pistol and a M50 Reising sub-machinegun.

[4F4Nam]

Sweet! And wasn't there a semi-auto rim-fire carbine as well?

Ed

[da gimp]

I have heard of a centerfire semi auto carbine in .45ACP, but never saw or handled one...

Col Geo. Miner had one of the Leatherneck .22's.... he set great store by it.......

[n64atlas]

The semi-auto 45acp is the M60 H&R Reising. It has a longer barrel and is a standard firearm, not NFA. There is also the M55 sub-gun with folding stock. They even made a 22mag version in the 70's and 80's. I've been ooking for one of those to add to the collection.

[Darreld Walton]

I've two 165's in the closet, two with plain stocks, one in a bit 'fancier' stock with checkering on forearm and grip that I gave to my son. All had the Redfield rear sight mounted, none had the winged front sight of the 65, nor the trigger guard safety. Prices were $175 for the plain guns, and $195 for the spiffed-up job. I must've cornered the market around here, haven't seen another one out of captivity for five or six years here in S E Idaho, Western Wyoming, Montana, or Utah, though I'm sure some must exist. Only other similar rifles are 65's that came from the CMP in the last several years, and those fella's are trying to scalp them for more than what they paid...

[n64atlas]

The ones theCMP have, re the MC58's. These are very rare. They auction them off and they get market value. They sometimes bring more, as
the CMP is more than a place to buy US military rifles. The CMP sponcers shooting events and clinics for young shooters. Also holds the National Matches.
I'm sure that yo will want market vle for your firearms when it comes time to sell them, not ust wht you paid for them. This is what we do in the USA.They have
a finite suppy of firearms to sell. Once those are gone, they will only have donations to survive on. Don't begruge them for trying to keep aflote.

[Herschel]

I believe Darreld's comment about scalping was referring to those who buy items from CMP and try to resell them at a profit.