Ok C5M1, I took your rifle out Saturday

[PhillipM]

With about 40 rounds total down the pipe I went to the local JCG match where they allow AR-15's. The course of fire is backwards, SP, RP, RS, SS. I intended to shoot the first relay with an M1 then try the AR for the second, but due to my elevation pinion taking a dump I only fired the AR and got a 438-3x which put me in third due to x count. The winner was a 17 year old kid with a 448-4x, second was 438-7x by Dan Miller, an excellent shooter. This is a personal high score for me, besting 427 with the M1.

I've had a horrible case of gout this week. By the grace of God it relented enough for me to go shoot. Later that day I was back on crutches!




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[C5M1]

Damn close to an expert score. Did your rapid scores increase with the 223? Just wondering. Was expecting higher score in the rapids. My standing score was always worse than yours, SF prone was about the same. My rapids were always in the 99% or better/but only with the AR. -88 or 89 was the norm with a 14. Just chalked up my bad slow fire scores to bad position/ especially stock weld.

Looks like everyone had a great time, nice range, good folks, hard to beat.





Gout sucks.


regards, dennis

[PhillipM]

Damn close to an expert score. Did your rapid scores increase with the 223? Just wondering. Was expecting higher score in the rapids. My standing score was always worse than yours, SF prone was about the same. My rapids were always in the 99% or better/but only with the AR. -88 or 89 was the norm with a 14. Just chalked up my bad slow fire scores to bad position/ especially stock weld.





Gout sucks.


regards, dennis

My rapid prone score sucked because I switched magazines. I loaded 8, fired two, mag change fired two.... looked at the empty chamber for a second thinking "Why is the damn gun empty???" Found dropped mag and banged off the other six. I also crawled too close and the charging handle kicked me in the teeth. I'll do better next time. Here is what I did with my Garand in June

[C5M1]

My rapid prone score sucked because I switched magazines. I loaded 8, fired two, mag change fired two.... looked at the empty chamber for a second thinking "Why is the damn gun empty???" Found dropped mag and banged off the other six. I also crawled too close and the charging handle kicked me in the teeth. I'll do better next time. Here is what I did with my Garand in June

Ya, It'll get better. Simple mistakes hurt. Found most of my mistakes happen when bs'n and havin a good time, lmao. Drivin a couple hundred miles and dump a hundred points on the next target........ARRRR!........All fun tho. Looking back.

regards, dennis

[Greg Ficklin]

Ok Phill, you liked my standing SF breakdown so maybe you will find something in this bit of free advice.
Pictures can tell a thousand words, and I see a couple of things in yours.
First. Your position is good. Your elbow is under the rifle. I can tell by the fact that the magazine is over the sling. Your left elbow is tucked in, which is good too.
Your sling isn't configured correctly though. I see this on many shooters. You have an open space in the sling ahead of your arm like a triangle, and there's something up with the feed end that I can't figure out. Let's just say that it looks a weird.
It may be some sort of "no pulse" config that I am not familiar with. But take it for what it's worth, you could make your sling better.
First, reassemble your sling with both keepers against the "dog" or hook, and take the feed end through the D ring of the short strap and then the keepers. Slide the feed end through so that you see a loop, two keepers, and the dog all together. They must stay together at all times. Now take the long feed end and go DOWN through the upper sling swivel and connect with the dog. The excess of the feed end will now fold back toward the muzzle. When getting into the sling, always remember that the keepers and dog always stay together. Tighten the sling on your arm by pulling the slack through the keepers from the side opposite of the dog. This jams the dog against the keepers, that are now next to your arm. This config will not loosen during your string.
The short side with the D ring isn't used, and some just wrap it around their arm, but there is a better way to handle it too. When the dog of the short end is taken off, simply hook it back to itself so that it will not pass through the lower sling swivel. It will slide up to that point giving you the slack to use your sling on your arm, and works as an aid to muzzle discipline when required to stand. It frees up an arm that allows you to get up and down easier. When standing for rapid strings, it will hang there like a guitar. Now you have a free hand to use in getting into position.

Also position your scope so that you can look through it without moving your elbows. Keep it close so that all you do is lean over to the eyepiece.

[PhillipM]

Thanks, Greg, I really appreciate everyone's advise. The sling was in a no pulse configuration similar to Jim Owens' method. FWIW it's a Turner NM second. I also have a 54" Turner biothane that is just hard to adjust.

I hate a loose sling and so far Owen's method has worked best, however I will try Greg's method so I can still sling the rifle.

[PhillipM]

Greg, I tried out the sling as you described on my last match. I liked it.