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  1. #11
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    Ever shot 195+ on your feet? You'll talk quite a bit differently about that "straight jacket" when you do.

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    Check out Champion Shooter Supply, bought a nice blue nylon jacket with straps for range use back in 98, good thing I got it in a 46, then! Paid $75 for it.

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    Depends what you want the jacket for.If you will be shooting in NRA orCMP matchs by all means get the Creedmor hardback everyone has one and you will be handi-capping yourself if you don't but only in off-hand. If you plan on mostly shooting prone or sitting or off a bench any of the lighter canvas coats would be fine.All you need is a pulse pad and a shoulder pad the extra support is not needed in those positions.I don't know what size you are but if your 38,40 or 42 you can find the old 10X jackets on e-bay all the time.I feel they were the best of the canvas type and have hoarded three in size 48 as this is what I use for prone.

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    Just got back so getting in late...

    My advice is if you're really into highpower then go low or go high but skip the middle.

    If you're not into highpower it doesn't matter what you get; a coat isn't going to turn a mediocre shooter into a High Master.

    I used a GP Maes for several years; it's cheap and looks good with an As Issued M1 from a "style" viewpoint. As a coat it's adequate enough to make-do until you can afford something better. I know a guy who has gotten all of his 24 leg points wearing one (he's a pretty good shooter); the average guy may not do as well.

    I tried a middle-of-the-road coat and know others who use them. I don't think I got much for the money I spent on mine. The other shooters do OK with theirs but admit it was a budget decision and not a first choice. Most plan to get a better coat when they can afford one.

    I've used a Creedmoor Hardback for a number of years and like it. Of course there's plenty of support in Standing but the other bennie is once it's broken in it always folds the same way when I get into the other positions too. Where the butt goes, how my arms bend, etc, etc all are more repeatable thanks to the heavy coat. I've had the rubber replaced once; if I don't get too fat the rest of the coat will probably last forever.

    As with some other items (eg, spotting scopes) you'll be able to save up the money you need for what you really want sooner if you don't pi$$ it away early on an unnecessary, unsatisfying, costs more than it needs to half-step.

    Maury

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    As a mere casual shooter I opted for the USMC-type. Couldn't see spending what Creedmoore wants for the high end get-up. As a casual shooter I wanted some elbow protection and pulse-dampening. From the photos you can see the USMC-type provides a minimum of these. Multi-layered cloth is what gives you the comfort/protection. I concur, however, that there exists better options for shooters these days - especially if said shooter toes the line at organized CMP events or the like. What an 18-yr old can pull off using more rudimentary equipment may not be what an older fellow can pull off. I'm 44 and am going to keep using my USMC clone shooting jacket. This way, I always have an excuse for poor groups! HTH

    "Wars are, of course, as a rule to be avoided; but they are far better than certain kinds of peace." - T.R.

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    I used ond of the canvas jackets(maybe from creedmore ) for several years until i could move up to a good hardback one. I still like the canvas one for belly matches though. In florida it gets hot so i'd soak it in a bucket of water before my relay and wear it wet. added a LOT of comfort. If it's really hot, try putting a hand full of ice cubes under a boonie hat. you're not going to believe how much the ice and cold water on your head cools you whole body.

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    So it sound like there's 2 schools of thought here: old school- (loose?) canvas jacket, new school- tight stiff jacket. Correct?

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    Maybe more like "you get what you pay for" vs "buy once - cry once"

    You can still turn in respectable scores with a USMC rag; it'll just be harder.

    I don't think the mid-level coats gain enough points over a rag to justify their extra cost.

    And with either of those choices you'll still be giving up points that you wouldn't be with top-level coat.

    So it really comes down to what those extra points are worth to you.

    Maury

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    I found a size 40 10X at a local club in their junior program cast offs. Its in really serviceable shape, excellent elbow protection with those shaped rubber cups. Perfect for me with my once a month shooting experience I am just getting into. When I asked what they would sell it for they said make us any donation to the junior program and they would give it to me. I could have said $5 or $10 bucks but I went with $30 as it would cover the cost of a couple slings they want.

    Check your local clubs cast off bin and see if they have something you can buy or borrow for a try.

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    The old 10-X type coats are okay for those just beginning and aren't sure yet if they are going to stay in the highpower rifle game. But once you decide that you want to get better scores then you need to get either a hard back or full leather coat. You get the most benefit in standing, but you also will gain points in sitting and prone rapid fire and help your 600 yard slow.
    In standing the hard back/leather coats will tighten up your wobble area. With a smaller wobble area your scores will improve. The same applies for the other stages. You should gain almost as many points total in the prone and sitting stages as you do in standing stage.
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