Does anyone know what the correct original stock and type of cartouche are for Winchester carbine Ser #1,041,6xx? Also what is date of manufacture? Thanks in advance for the help.
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Does anyone know what the correct original stock and type of cartouche are for Winchester carbine Ser #1,041,6xx? Also what is date of manufacture? Thanks in advance for the help.
Type 1, I cut high wood stock, with boxed WRA/GHD. It would have been made about March 1943.
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c-j, does you early Winchester stock have any letters on the bridge in front of the trigger housing?
Chuck.
Numbers and or letters on the inside of Winchester stocks is normal.
Thanx R. Borecky, c-j, Tuna, that helps me determine the origin of an "I" cut stock I got on a carbine 21 years ago that did not have any other markings anywhere. It evidently was a carbine put together by National Ordnance in 1958 +/- that did not have any Nat.Ord. ID on it. At that time Nat.Ord. used replacement stocks and several other parts made by Winchester* I originally thought it was a Hilerich/Bradsby stock made for Inland because of an early Inland diagonal diamond buttplate and a type 2 inland recoil plate that came with it.
*M1Carbinesinc. "National Ordnance"
Chuck
Most Winchester carbines are marked in the sling well with a small W. It can be very hard to see. Then again some of them were not marked at all in the well. Another way to check if it's a Winchester is the bottom of the stock. Winchester stocks are a bit wider and flatter on the bottom.
Another board member suggested the "I" cut Winchester stocks had a round profile compared to their types 2,3,and 4 stocks. I have not had enough experience with the early stocks. I appreciate the experience and expertise of the members of this board!
Thanx again.
Chuck
While on the subject of earlier Winchesters...
Would a 1,254,xxx rifle be correct with WRA overGHD no box, oval sling cut?
Type 2 oval cut oiler slot with high wood. WRA/GHD no box is correct.
Here are pics of my early Winchester ser.# 10472xx , with bbl date of Jan 1943.
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That is a real nice Winchester that would date to about February/March 1943 when it was made. You have a gem there.
Thank you, Tuna.Quote:
That is a real nice Winchester that would date to about February/March 1943 when it was made. You have a gem there.
Last week I acquired another early Winchester, serial # 11100xx.
It appears to be all original, with all of its early parts and features, but it has a few issues......
The "L" marked front sight has had its "ear's" cut off flush, with the sight base.
The type 1 front band has released,(separates) at it's spot welds, and is missing its original swivel.
Lastly , the "I" cut high wood stock has had all stampings and cartouche' removed and is coated with a "tru oil" type finish.
I can't get to it today, but will likely start a new thread tomorrow (Sunday) and post some detailed pics of both carbines , and ask advise,
particularly on the stock restoration including cartouche restoration that I am considering having done.
Thanks again !
Serial no. 1,047,2-- seems a little late to have a dated barrel to me. I have two earlier a 1031--- and a 1045--- both with undated WRA barrels.
I have Winchester 1,039,8xx, original, as-issued, with no barrel date. W and Winchester proof are the only barrel markings
When Winchester had problems with receivers that had serial numbers on them they placed those to the side and kept building on good receivers. When they caught up on production they turned to the bad receivers months later and reused the numbers and by that time they no longer were dating barrels.