High Standard Trench guns

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/872317706

Any way to tell a real one from a made up one?

I would ask for the serial number and go over to https://www.histandard.info/ and send Mr Stimson a note,

the forum is down, but there is a contact link for him

he may be able to provide records to show it was delivered to the .gov,


it has been refinished, but by .gov or not I have no idea

FAKE (in my opinion).
There are guys on each coast that make fake trenchguns. Looks like the work of the guy on the West coast.

Fake marks. Among other issues with that shotgun, the government wasn't using the ordnance bomb mark when these High Standard shotguns were made.

I emailed Mr Stimson about the Gunbroker and the pre98 trench guns.
Here is his response


Hello Brian,

I have very little research about High Standard riot guns. The only
research I have seen on them in print is Thomas Swearengen's book and
Bruce Canfield's book .

I do know enough to say that I can take issue with some comments in both
books. More in Swearengen's book because he says more. But I have not
tried to commit to paper those differences.

Unfortunately, the factory records a are not easy to use in the case of
their shotguns and since a lot of the early shotguns are not serialized
the data is not available in a serial number log.

I have found orders for police shotguns that were shipped with Service
Armament hand guards installed. I have found some that were shipped on
consignment to a few government facilities and I have found they were
returned and sold from the High Standard collection in 1980.

The two references you provided are ones I have seen before. One of the
accompanying stories talks about 1970's and a model that was
discontinued in late 1968.

I am skeptical about the two you referenced but I have not done
sufficient research to see if I can find say these are valid or bogus.


John Stimson