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Wonky serial number. Looks like someone found the picture and then attempted to make a rifle that "looked like" the picture. When did the M1C mount come out?
According to his book Shots Fired in Anger, Col. George used a M70 Winchester. In his book he indicates that he returned the Rifle to Winchester and had the barrel cut to 20 inches.
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Yeah we have a sniper group and someone showed the pics. Besides the fact that the M1C mount pictured was way too late for that pic.
You look at the mounts in the pics and they are different. In all likelyhood that mount in the vintage pic is probably a Noske. Both the Army and Marines were trailing Noske about this time. So it would make the most sense. But it's so hard to tell for sure.
But yeah that rifle isn't in the slightest bit real.
https://i.imgur.com/feOow2kh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XEwn4zBh.jpg
As a follow on: When Col George moved from New Caledonia to Guadalcanal, he left the M70 with a friend and carried A M1903 on which he had mounted a Lyman Alaskan scope. He gave no indication as to what mount he used. He also carried a quantity of handloaded M1 ammo. Can you imagining that happening today?
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Originally Posted by Cosine26
a friend was deployed to the sandbox, he found out what he was going to be issued, and was not impressed (he was not a grunt, higher in rank, and in a transportation group)
so he built his own upper , had it included in his units connex of stuff, and used it while there,
and brought it home,
took some doing, and he was willing to leave it there if need be,
of course, he used whatever uncle sam gave him for ammo
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Originally Posted by Cosine26
The ammo that George took to Guadalcanal was hand selected M1 ball, not handloaded.
Upon rereading John B. George's book Shots Fired in Anger, I have found the following information.
1.Upon leaving the US, George had no good sniping rifle but took with him some hunting ammunition and some M1 ball (not handloads). His Model 70 was being re-barreled due to misuse by a fellow he had loaned it to. He had the rifle shipped to him along with a Lyman 2 1/2 power Alaskan telescopic sight and a Griffin and Howe Model 1903 mount.
2. He used the Model 70 while in New Caledonia, but left it with a friend when he moved to Guadalcanal. When he moved to the "CANAL" he took the scope sighed M1903and used that on all of his sniping excursions. On his sniping forays he used DEN 42 M2 Ball .
3. He confirmed that one could hear the PING of an ejected M1 clip during a fire fight. His words not mine.
4. Later in the book he does indicate that he used a M1903 with the barrel cut to 20 inches. The source in the original posting says that the 4 inches were removed from the rear of the barrel. I do not believe that you can cut 4 inches from the rear of a M1903 barrel and still mount it on the rifle. It makes more sense to cut it from the front. IMHO.
This information was taken from his book and I can quote page numbers from the original book. My copy is dated 1947 and was published by the Small Arms Technical Publishing Company.
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