View Full Version : Why latest Canadian Firearms Regs are senseless
Mark in Ottawa
11-02-2020, 12:03
As some of you likely know, a couple of months ago the Canadian Liberal Government of Justin Trudeau declared over 1,000 models of firearm to be "prohibited". This included anything that anybody could describe as an "assault weapon" or was just scary looking. This, of course, was just another part of his attempt to be the darling of the "woke" generation and annti-gun lobby. Ostensibly this was to protect the public.
So yesterday (Halloween) a 24 year old man demonstrated that you don't need a semi automatic rifle to put the public at risk and carry out a mass killing. The guy dressed up in a medieval costume and wandered around the downtown area of Quebec City slashing a people with a sword. He killed two women and wounded five others before he was arrested. Unfortunatly he appears to have surrendured peacefully when accosted by the police. No doubt he will claim insanity (probably correctly) and will be let out of hospital in a few years when the shrinks deem him as no longer a threat.
BBC said Japanese sword?
thankfully there were no more injured or killed,
re the banned guns, I remember reading a list of the Ca banned guns, some were airsoft or toys
Roadkingtrax
11-02-2020, 12:36
Game of Thrones will be banned next.
Game of Thrones will be banned next.
they may still show it
but have all the bad stuff cut out like they did the Bugs Bunny cartoons,,,
Point taken Mark but seriously, 2 killed and 5 wounded is less than one 30 round mag. Firepower does matter in the hands of homicidal maniacs.
Point taken Mark but seriously, 2 killed and 5 wounded is less than one 30 round mag. Firepower does matter in the hands of homicidal maniacs.
not really,
if it were one round a person, a 1911 would have done that job,
fact is, as Mark pointed out, the laws in Canada did not , in this case, do as intended, protect the innocent,
hopefully Canada won't go down the rabbit hole the UK has on sharp pointy things,
unfortunately some folks will have to deal with the loss of a family member, or a wounded member,
We don't know who is still unharmed for the fact that the guy had a sword and not a firearm. At a minimum one should find out what the guy's history is with firearms before concluding the law was ineffective in his case.
That's just basic logic and reasoning.
Do you approve of tough OWI laws? There are still drunks out there behind the wheel. Why not just give up? It would be a boon to the tavern industry.
Mark in Ottawa
11-02-2020, 04:35
Togor. There is a lot of sense in your statement. I was fixating on the fact that he was able to slice up 7 people without using a firearm without really thinking about the damage that he could have done had he had one.
firearms or not, fortunately he did not hurt or kill more,
doesn't Canada have magazine restrictions already ??
It does slow them down some. Numerous folks have been stabbed by Muslims(they know how to use knives) so nothing is fool proof but I guess this helps if your overrun with nutcases. Carry a cane for defense. Or a brolly, it rains, it looks appropriate.
Mark in Ottawa
11-03-2020, 07:54
Lyman. Yes we do have magazine restrictions: 5 rounds for semi auto rifles and 10 rounds for pistols. There is an exception and a surprising one. There is no mag size restriction for .22 rifles. That has recently caused something of an uproar. As in the USA, Ruger 10-22 rifles are very popular and there have apparently been tens of thousands of sales of 25 and 30 round magazines for them. A recent problem however is that Ruger brought out a pistol that uses the same 10 round mag as the 10-22 and as a result can be fitted with the 25 or 30 round mags designed and legal for the rifle. That has caused the government to declare the thousands of large mags to be prohibited. A much more logical approach would have been to declare the pistol to be prohibited since there would almost certainly have been very few sold at the time. The matter is going to court but I'm not sure when
Lyman. Yes we do have magazine restrictions: 5 rounds for semi auto rifles and 10 rounds for pistols. There is an exception and a surprising one. There is no mag size restriction for .22 rifles. That has recently caused something of an uproar. As in the USA, Ruger 10-22 rifles are very popular and there have apparently been tens of thousands of sales of 25 and 30 round magazines for them. A recent problem however is that Ruger brought out a pistol that uses the same 10 round mag as the 10-22 and as a result can be fitted with the 25 or 30 round mags designed and legal for the rifle. That has caused the government to declare the thousands of large mags to be prohibited. A much more logical approach would have been to declare the pistol to be prohibited since there would almost certainly have been very few sold at the time. The matter is going to court but I'm not sure when
that is interesting,
22's usually get an exemption due to the tube feed, but I guess you can pin the internal tube (or put a stop in like a shotgun ) if needed
Junior's import ban(that is to eventually lead to confiscation and more types being banned) is stupid because it makes what the idiot in Nova Scotia illegal when it was already illegal. The guy illegally bought the AR Stateside and illegally imported it into Canada. Junior and his gang of socialists has, once again, opted to further persecute the law abiding. They have had an agenda to make Canada the first Western country where the private ownership of any kind of firearm, BP and air powered included, a thing of the past.
I noticed there has been no call to ban edged weapons.
"...the laws in Canada did not..." The firearms laws here don't do that and never have. Nor have they ever been intended to protect anybody. Their sole purpose is to convince our stupid people that government is doing something about crime.
Johnny P
11-03-2020, 10:16
Firearms laws are written for the law abiding as there is virtually 100% compliance. The thugs and hoodlums don't abide by any law, so laws are not needed for them.
Junior's import ban(that is to eventually lead to confiscation and more types being banned) is stupid because it makes what the idiot in Nova Scotia illegal when it was already illegal. The guy illegally bought the AR Stateside and illegally imported it into Canada. Junior and his gang of socialists has, once again, opted to further persecute the law abiding. They have had an agenda to make Canada the first Western country where the private ownership of any kind of firearm, BP and air powered included, a thing of the past.
I noticed there has been no call to ban edged weapons.
"...the laws in Canada did not..." The firearms laws here don't do that and never have. Nor have they ever been intended to protect anybody. Their sole purpose is to convince our stupid people that government is doing something about crime.
ditto here Sunray
"...there is virtually 100% compliance..." No, there isn't. When our socialists decided all hunting rifles would be registerable (at $25Cdn each in the beginning) and a licence course(taught by unqualified instructors) was required even for those with military/police/long term experience, there was widespread non-compliance. That by otherwise law abiding voters too.
BBC said Japanese sword?
thankfully there were no more injured or killed,
re the banned guns, I remember reading a list of the Ca banned guns, some were airsoft or toys
yes Airsoft are prohibited in canada...
my daughter competes in international (olympic) air rifle matches. theres a big international match in Toronto every year. we are less than a 3 hour drive so we've gone several times. we stop at the bridge and inform the agent we need to go to secondary for a rifle inspection. they send us over and we speak with another agent before going inside...
we have the RCMP paperwork already completed and the agent behind the counter says "you cant bring that into the country because theyre banned". i show him the flyer and the registration that shows the Canadian AIRGUN Grand Prix logo and information on it etc etc. he replies "i dont care what paperwork you have, airguns are illegal in Canada" i ask him what does the Canadian Olympic team shoot in their Air Rifle competitions. he says he "doesnt (dont) think they do because airguns are illegal in Canada"... this goes on for about 15 minutes and i ask to see a supervisor. the supervisor comes over and asks "why are you trying to bring an airgun into Canada if theyre clearly illegal?" i explain that we are headed to the 33rd Canadian Airgun Grand Prix and if air rifles and air pistols were illegal, how couold they have this match, and how could it be sponsored by (some Canadian) Firearm Safety Council? she shook her head and couldnt imagine that an AIRSOFT match could be very accurate and then it dawned on me. they thought my daughters $3,000 Walther LG400, was a $200 plastic BB gun. it took another 5-10 minutes to explain the difference and then all was good. i told them there were 4 other families that were going to be coming through in the next hour or so with air rifles for this match...
they were very understanding once they had half a clue
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