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RED
11-26-2019, 03:35
Like most other governmental entities, they are manned by inefficient, slackers that don’t have jobs, they have a guaranteed annuity for life.

The case in point. As directed by my attorney, I placed notarized documents, original appraisals and surveys, warranty deeds, and other personal papers in a prepaid, pre-addressed envelope prepared by a paralegal.

The Post Office told me the envelope would be tracked every minute and they would know exactly where and when it was delivered. That was a lie.

They claim it was delivered on 11/20/2019, but to whom or to where nobody knows. It is lost.

If the mail was delivered to the small Arkansas town (pop. 4,000) where I live the P.O. would have the technology, but in backwards Columbia, Missouri (pop. 90,000 + 30,000 U of MO students) they don’t have access to that technology.

Just so you know...

togor
11-26-2019, 04:36
Use a Priority Mail envelope for $7 with tracking or some Forever postage stamps? Did you check the address written down by the paralegal and verify it to be correct?

lyman
11-26-2019, 05:05
post office does not do tracking well,

they do Delivery Confirmation, which is what it used to be called poorly, sometimes,

if the documents were that important, they should have gone registered mail, (it is handed off at each stop, )

priority works well for me, I mail a couple thousand packages thru USPS a year, very few issues,


like Togor said, a Priority Flat Rate envelop, with 'tracking #' would have been much better,


if you have the tracking number, call your postmaster and let them know it is lost, and you need it, now,, get them to find it

RED
11-26-2019, 05:56
post office does not do tracking well,

they do Delivery Confirmation, which is what it used to be called poorly, sometimes,

if the documents were that important, they should have gone registered mail, (it is handed off at each stop, )

.

priority works well for me, I mail a couple thousand packages thru USPS a year, very few issues,


like Togor said, a Priority Flat Rate envelop, with 'tracking #' would have been much better,


if you have the tracking number, call your postmaster and let them know it is lost, and you need it, now,, get them to find it

That's the lie... Both me and my lawyer have the tracking number, we have a photograph of the envelope in Columbia, MO. But the PO in Columbia cannot tell us were the package was delivered or who has it. The lawyer that charges $500/hour sent me the envelope... and instructions on what to do.

The truth is the Columbia MO PO is lacking in technology but has spent millions in art and decorations. If it had been sent to the PO in my town of 4,000 population, they have the technology to track every delivery, including 1st class mail.

But, you are obviously a Hell of a lot smarter than my highly respected lawyer that has a great reputation. Thank you, send me your Bar license and I'll pay you $550/hour to advise me.

lyman
11-26-2019, 06:00
That's the lie... Both me and my lawyer have the tracking number, we have a photograph of the envelope in Columbia, MO. But the PO in Columbia cannot tell us were the package was delivered oe who to.

More lies and BS. The lawyer that charges $500/hour sent me the envelope... and instructions on what to do.

But, you are obviously a Hell of a lot smarter than my highly respected lawyer that has a great reputation. Thank you, send me your Bar license and I'll pay you $505/hour to advise me.

no need to get your feathers up in arms, go call YOUR postmaster where you mailed it at, and talk to them,
tell the postmaster it is sensitive documents and you need them delivered,

then call the postmaster daily until they find it,


you did not say what service you used, (registered, first class , Priority etc, )

hope you had copies of everything,

RED
11-26-2019, 06:20
Do you think I am an idiot??? Of course In have been to the PO and talked at length to my postmaster... twice. And, yes, my lawyer has personally talked to the postmaster in Columbia, MO.

Do this, call the posoffice in Columbia, MO and ask them if they can track 1st class priority mail... Then call YOUR post master and ask the same question.

You may be surprised.

I'm still waiting to see your credentials that makes you superior to all of us conservatives.

lyman
11-26-2019, 06:28
Do you think I am an idiot??? Of course In have been to the PO and talked at length to my postmaster... twice. And, yes, my lawyer has personally talked to the postmaster in Columbia, MO.

Do this, call the posoffice in Columbia, MO and ask them if they can track 1st class priority mail... Then call YOUR post master and ask the same question.

You may be surprised.

I'm still waiting to see your credentials that makes you superior to all of us conservatives.


bad night?

simply telling you what I know has worked in the past with stuff I have mailed, (I run a small business, I mail a lot, 90% thru the USPS)

I have talked to my post master, several times, and a few others on occasion thru out the nation, when needed for insurance claims (rare)



there is no First Class Priority mail, BTW, it is one or the other, , (first class ,or priority, not both)

never said I was superior to anyone here, that is your habit,, still got that lovely PM saved with your resume on it,,,,:icon_rolleyes:

RED
11-26-2019, 07:33
bad night?

simply telling you what I know has worked in the past with stuff I have mailed, (I run a small business, I mail a lot, 90% thru the USPS)

I have talked to my post master, several times, and a few others on occasion thru out the nation, when needed for insurance claims (rare)



there is no First Class Priority mail, BTW, it is one or the other, , (first class ,or priority, not both)

never said I was superior to anyone here, that is your habit,, still got that lovely PM saved with your resume on it,,,,:icon_rolleyes:

OK, I don't know how the envelope my $500/hour lawyer sent was labeled. I am $6,000 into this suit. Tell me again how you would you tell a trusted attorney that he is stupid for sending me a prepaid envelope to send documents necessary for the case. Tell me again why you would refuse the request.

You and togor are colluding ,.

lyman
11-26-2019, 07:45
OK, I don't know how the envelope my $500/hour lawyer sent was labeled. I am $6,000 into this suit. Tell me again how you would you tell a trusted attorney that he is stupid for sending me a prepaid envelope to send documents necessary for the case. Tell me again why you would refuse the request.

You and togor are colluding ,.

wtf does togor have to do with this?

and how are we colluding?

you mailed stuff w\o looking?
you are complaining about a service , yet did not take the time to look at how it was mailed? and did not take the time to make sure it was mailed correctly?


who gives a crap how much your lawyer charges?? and how is that relevant?

I don't need to tell you anything, since you would not listen anyway,

maybe you should ask your lawyer about it??


the lawyer is the one you need to be questioning, and the postmaster, not me,,



do you really want to know what I think you are after this post???

Gun Smoke
11-26-2019, 07:55
Tracking and delivery confirmation only assures that the package or letter has been delivered. To whom is another issue all together. Sometimes I get other peoples mail and they get mine. You are at their mercy to put the item back in the mail box so they carrier will pick it up and redirect it to the correct address.

The best thing to do is to send important items where a signature is required.

The PO has so far lost two postal MO's that I mailed. In each case I had to fill out a form that I had to purchase from them and wait 90 days for reimbursement. This is for items you paid postage on and they lost. You don't get that money back. The forms cost somewhere between $4-$5. So they make money off of you when they mess up.

I have received wet, torn and empty mailing envelopes that got damaged during transmit. Yes I went to the PO and spoke to the postmaster. In each case he said the package probably got damaged somewhere during the delivery and in each case I said "NO S**T". There is no definition of obligation on their part to complete the transaction.

The last rifle I bought through GB was sent by USPS and was received at my FFL dealer serverely damaged. So much so that the carrier knew of the damage. I contacted the seller to see if he wanted the rifle sent back, wanted to make a claim or what. The FFL dealer took pictures, sent them to me and I sent them to the seller. He said the rifle had been sent to me uninsured because the PO had damaged several guns that were insured in the past but would not pay. He said he was better off saving the wasted money on ins vs just eating a damaged gun every so often. He reimbursed me $ for a replacement stock and other small items that were destroyed so I accepted the item to repair.

My point is, like all gov agencies, the PO has absolutely no accountability.

Nearly everything they deliver arrives w/o incident and on time but when there is a mishap you are usually on your own.

Again, for me, I send important things where a signature is required along with the tracking #. This does not prevent them from damaging or losing the item but at least the sender has some degree of proof that delivery was completed or not and who signed for it.

RED
11-26-2019, 08:10
I dont care... I don't give a tinker's dam what you think. I have no respect for you. In my opinion you are just another left wing liberal hack,

What have you ever done for the USA. You laugh and giggle about my "resume." I have documents to prove every thing in there. If you want to see my records, log books, DD214, my degrees, I can do that (BTW I have published my DD214 on this forum). Five years, eight months active duty during the Vietnam era. My log books are proof of hundreds of carrier landings and over 200 night traps in a F-4 Phantom.

What did you do??? where did you serve???.

You are just a enabler for the Democrat/Socialist/ party. I have more respect for Mickey Mouse than for you... Come on send me your "resume."

dryheat
11-26-2019, 08:21
go call YOUR postmaster where you mailed it at, and talk to them-

I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

I'll bet Red, like grounds keeper Willie on the Simpsons is Scottish. I've worked with them.

But I'd visit Scotland, just not during the midge season. Like Oklahoma, where I'd like to see where those high cheekboned women come from, I'd visit Scotland just to see where all that crazy comes from.

lyman
11-27-2019, 05:47
I dont care... I don't give a tinker's dam what you think. I have no respect for you. In my opinion you are just another left wing liberal hack,

What have you ever done for the USA. You laugh and giggle about my "resume." I have documents to prove every thing in there. If you want to see my records, log books, DD214, my degrees, I can do that (BTW I have published my DD214 on this forum). Five years, eight months active duty during the Vietnam era. My log books are proof of hundreds of carrier landings and over 200 night traps in a F-4 Phantom.

What did you do??? where did you serve???.

You are just a enabler for the Democrat/Socialist/ party. I have more respect for Mickey Mouse than for you... Come on send me your "resume."

I've posted some of that in the past, you were too busy wrapping yourself in your flag of self righteousness to read anything,


disagree with anything you say and anyone and everyone becomes a communist sympathizer to you,,



fact is, if your resume you sent me is correct, and you want me (and others ) to believe you are an Officer and a Gentleman,,,,they maybe you should act like one??

instead you act like a bully punk antifa teenager, or someone with sundowners,,,



keep on, you tactics don't work on me,


when you decide to talk rationally about anything,, maybe someone will listen, when you get this way, it is just noise in the background

shadycon
11-27-2019, 06:19
Have your important documents delivered by a private delivery service!

lyman
11-27-2019, 07:02
go call YOUR postmaster where you mailed it at, and talk to them-

I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

I'll bet Red, like grounds keeper Willie on the Simpsons is Scottish. I've worked with them.

But I'd visit Scotland, just not during the midge season. Like Oklahoma, where I'd like to see where those high cheekboned women come from, I'd visit Scotland just to see where all that crazy comes from.

and the Scotch,,,, damn tasty stuff (not from Oklahoma)

Vern Humphrey
11-27-2019, 09:15
Charles Bergeron get out of dem Army. He say to his Daddy, "I got to get me a job, me."

His Daddy say, "Try dat Post Office. Dey be hirin' dere."

He fill out all dem forms and dey ax him all dem questions, "You got any allergies, you?"

"Me, I'm allergic to caffeine, dat's it."

"You been in de Service?"

"I just get out of dem Army."

"Dat's good! You get five points just for dat. You got any disabilities?"

"Me, I got blown up by an IED and los' bot' testicles."

"Stop! You don't got to say no more! You got so many points I hire you right now. De job is from 8 to 5. You come in at 10 every morning."

"If de job is from 8 to 5, how come I don't got to be here until 10?"

"Dis is the Post Office! For de first two hours we stan' aroun' an' scratch our unmentionables. You don' got to be here for dat, no."

Sandpebble
11-27-2019, 04:25
That's the lie... Both me and my lawyer have the tracking number, we have a photograph of the envelope in Columbia, MO. But the PO in Columbia cannot tell us were the package was delivered or who has it. The lawyer that charges $500/hour sent me the envelope... and instructions on what to do.

The truth is the Columbia MO PO is lacking in technology but has spent millions in art and decorations. If it had been sent to the PO in my town of 4,000 population, they have the technology to track every delivery, including 1st class mail.

But, you are obviously a Hell of a lot smarter than my highly respected lawyer that has a great reputation. Thank you, send me your Bar license and I'll pay you $550/hour to advise me.

Three years into draining the swamp..... and eliminating regulations .... and that's what ya get ? ....hhmmmph

togor
11-27-2019, 06:49
I once mailed a WW2 vintage scope to a guy for service. Shipped via priority mail. Tracking said "delivered", but addressee did not see it. I made a phone call to my local PO. That postmaster was able to email me a GPS link that was generated at point of delivery and according to the link the box was right where it was supposed to be. So on second look the box was found. Not sure what the deal was with the recipient, but everything turned out fine, and I learned that the USPS took a GPS snapshot at the delivery point.

free1954
11-28-2019, 05:23
Charles Bergeron get out of dem Army. He say to his Daddy, "I got to get me a job, me."

His Daddy say, "Try dat Post Office. Dey be hirin' dere."

He fill out all dem forms and dey ax him all dem questions, "You got any allergies, you?"

"Me, I'm allergic to caffeine, dat's it."

"You been in de Service?"

"I just get out of dem Army."

"Dat's good! You get five points just for dat. You got any disabilities?"

"Me, I got blown up by an IED and los' bot' testicles."

"Stop! You don't got to say no more! You got so many points I hire you right now. De job is from 8 to 5. You come in at 10 every morning."

"If de job is from 8 to 5, how come I don't got to be here until 10?"

"Dis is the Post Office! For de first two hours we stan' aroun' an' scratch our unmentionables. You don' got to be here for dat, no."


HA HA HA. now we know why most government offices don't open until 10

togor
11-28-2019, 06:43
What's with the "dat" and "dem" in the joke? Mountain boys?

barretcreek
11-28-2019, 11:18
Sent a certified letter to the largest employer in a small town. Tracking said it got to the PO but never signed for. Next one went registered. So they ended up flying their lawyer from Podunk to Cowtown to sit in the back of the courtroom to watch their local rep explain how come my signature was misspelled on the work order I supposedly approved.
He closed up and left town over the weekend.

holdover
11-29-2019, 04:12
sent a priority mail package of documents to a law firm in Rhode Island earlier in the month. Kept checking the tracking numbers for 5 days, no record of delivery. Filed with the USPO a request of where my package was , got a canned reply that it was in transit, 8 days after mailing, emailed the Law firm if they got the package, they called me and said they did. PO DID NOT scan the package when delivered. About an hour after the lawyers called someone from the PO called, speaking with a foreign accent I could barely understand, called and apologized for the delay of delivery and they were trying to track down the package, I said that the law firm called and said it was delivered over 5 days ago, and for them to stop their search and fire the postman who didn't know their job! A pretty incompetent group of people that I paid extra to track my package.

Vern Humphrey
11-29-2019, 04:48
sent a priority mail package of documents to a law firm in Rhode Island earlier in the month. Kept checking the tracking numbers for 5 days, no record of delivery. Filed with the USPO a request of where my package was , got a canned reply that it was in transit, 8 days after mailing, emailed the Law firm if they got the package, they called me and said they did. PO DID NOT scan the package when delivered. About an hour after the lawyers called someone from the PO called, speaking with a foreign accent I could barely understand, called and apologized for the delay of delivery and they were trying to track down the package, I said that the law firm called and said it was delivered over 5 days ago, and for them to stop their search and fire the postman who didn't know their job! A pretty incompetent group of people that I paid extra to track my package.


When I was in the Army, we had to deal with Federal employees all the time. WE called them "missiles" -- they don't work and you can't fire them.

barretcreek
11-30-2019, 02:41
A few years ago I had to provide an original birth certificate to a federal agency. Not trusting them with one, I mailed registered letter to myself general delivery at the P.O. with their zip code. Turns out that P.O. was in the federal building and ONLY federal mail could be accepted for that zip code. Which didn't seem phase the USPS computer when I mailed the envelope. So I had to trudge many blocks through downtown Oakland to the main P.O. The can't be fired at the general delivery window was jonesing so badly she could barely speak. After forty five minutes of wandering around there trying to find someone else to help me a Korean immigrant employee found my registered letter in about 90 seconds.

Oh, there was a message waiting on my answering machine when I got home. Federal agency lost the copy of my b/c but since they'd seen the original I could just send them a notarized copy.

Major Tom
12-01-2019, 02:02
Used to be that you could set your watch when your mail was delivered. Not anymore! We get mail anytime between 9am and 10pm! We get neighbor's mail, they get ours. No steady mail carrier; we see 3-4 different carriers per week.

Vern Humphrey
12-01-2019, 12:22
Used to be that you could set your watch when your mail was delivered. Not anymore! We get mail anytime between 9am and 10pm! We get neighbor's mail, they get ours. No steady mail carrier; we see 3-4 different carriers per week.

And that's dangerous -- if someone else is getting your mail, no telling the damage they can do.

About 25 years ago, there was a TV program on a scam where someone would put in a change of address for ONE family member, route their mail to a collection box, and use the information to drain their bank accounts and so on.

Gun Smoke
12-01-2019, 01:24
And that's dangerous -- if someone else is getting your mail, no telling the damage they can do.

About 25 years ago, there was a TV program on a scam where someone would put in a change of address for ONE family member, route their mail to a collection box, and use the information to drain their bank accounts and so on.

Like I stated before, there is NO accountability. Misdirected mail is almost as bad as stolen mail. Usually you will get your letters if delivered to someone else but you are at their mercy. Some mail is confidential and may be opened and read by others before they realize the letter wasn't intended for them.

Human error is going to happen. A few years back our carriers knew everyone. Now, they know no one and no one knows the carrier. The PO needs to come up with a better, more secure form of tracking. Perhaps one day we will have a scanner on our mail box?

Vern Humphrey
12-01-2019, 01:49
Like I stated before, there is NO accountability. Misdirected mail is almost as bad as stolen mail. Usually you will get your letters if delivered to someone else but you are at their mercy. Some mail is confidential and may be opened and read by others before they realize the letter wasn't intended for them.

Human error is going to happen. A few years back our carriers knew everyone. Now, they know no one and no one knows the carrier. The PO needs to come up with a better, more secure form of tracking. Perhaps one day we will have a scanner on our mail box?

Either that or go completely to electronic secure mail and bypass the Post Office entirely.

Gun Smoke
12-01-2019, 02:06
Either that or go completely to electronic secure mail and bypass the Post Office entirely.

Email has done most of that already but there is still the case of packages. In my area sending something by UPS is a real pain. The office is only open Mon--Fri @ 4:00pm till 6:00pm. Also, it is in another town with only one office in the entire county. The "UPS Store" (no affiliation with the real UPS) will ship for you but charge for this service and they prefer to package the items. In fact, it may be a requirement because there are many things they won't ship, like guns.

FedEx has no offices in my county. The closest one being 30 miles away.

The PO has flat rate boxes that can be used in many cases. You know in advance what the charge will be. With FedEx and UPS you haven't a clue.

I for one still have to use the USPS. Just wish they would become more responsible.

Vern Humphrey
12-01-2019, 02:23
In my opinion, there will be an alternative for packages soon -- Amazon, for example, has a real aggressive program to handle packages.

lyman
12-01-2019, 02:38
Like I stated before, there is NO accountability. Misdirected mail is almost as bad as stolen mail. Usually you will get your letters if delivered to someone else but you are at their mercy. Some mail is confidential and may be opened and read by others before they realize the letter wasn't intended for them.

Human error is going to happen. A few years back our carriers knew everyone. Now, they know no one and no one knows the carrier. The PO needs to come up with a better, more secure form of tracking. Perhaps one day we will have a scanner on our mail box?

I have had the same carrier for my shop for a few years (maybe 8?),

he is about fed up,

the job changes he said he could handle (used to come in , grab the mail, and go out on the road, now he says the drivers help sort it etc before they hit the road, big mail load means later deliveries)

he said the kicker for him is the changes in structure, management and policies,

I was chatting with him one day and asked why he had an orange zip tie on the rod holding his left side mirror,,

he said someone up the chain decided that all the mail trucks had to have that to increase safety and awareness of traffic trying to pass as they left a mailbox,,,

yep,, an orange zip tie on the left mirror support,,

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Email has done most of that already but there is still the case of packages. In my area sending something by UPS is a real pain. The office is only open Mon--Fri @ 4:00pm till 6:00pm. Also, it is in another town with only one office in the entire county. The "UPS Store" (no affiliation with the real UPS) will ship for you but charge for this service and they prefer to package the items. In fact, it may be a requirement because there are many things they won't ship, like guns.

FedEx has no offices in my county. The closest one being 30 miles away.

The PO has flat rate boxes that can be used in many cases. You know in advance what the charge will be. With FedEx and UPS you haven't a clue.

I for one still have to use the USPS. Just wish they would become more responsible.

not sure how much you are mailing, but you can go online and create an account with both FedEx and UPS,
package and print your label , they charge a CC,

all you need are the packing materials and a scale,
and will pick up at your door, (for a fee, UPS is $4)

you can do all that for USPS as well, and they will also schedule a pickup,, for free, (you select a day, and the website lets you know if they can that day, it is very easy, I use it sometimes)


I mail a schload of packages, 90-95% thru USPS, and rarely have to visit a counter for anything other than dropoff,

Gun Smoke
12-01-2019, 02:49
If you have to be at home when they pick up you may as well travel to the office. If you don't have to be at home there is the chance of someone stealing from your porch.

The mail carriers we have now are all female from other towns/states/or WTF. While the USPS has size and weight limits of 70# on packages to compete with the other companies the women can not begin to pick up anything over 15-20#. They will pull up in my driveway and lay on the horn till I go out and carry the package in.

Some of these "heavy" packages are in small boxes and will easily fit into my large mail box.

I realize the postal employees have it hard in regards to job duties and time limits but something needs to change or improve if they are to stay competitive. FedEx, DHL and UPS seem to be doing well and operate their own planes.

Roadkingtrax
12-01-2019, 03:05
The USPS is FedEx's largest customer, and they are contracted to move all Priority and Express mail packages.

Gun Smoke
12-01-2019, 04:04
So?

Roadkingtrax
12-01-2019, 04:10
So?

FedEx, DHL and UPS seem to be doing well and operate their own planes.

What, So? Part of that FedEx revenue is servicing the USPS contract through its subcontracted and leased assets. The Post Office can't bring mail back "en vogue" for postage revenue, and they can't afford the pension. Operating it's own planes won't make up the shortfall.

togor
12-01-2019, 06:48
Flat rate service to rural areas is a money loser for USPS.

Roadkingtrax
12-01-2019, 06:56
Flat rate service to rural areas is a money loser for USPS.

Have to admit, same day Amazon deliveries are pretty damn nice.

lyman
12-01-2019, 07:47
If you have to be at home when they pick up you may as well travel to the office. If you don't have to be at home there is the chance of someone stealing from your porch.

The mail carriers we have now are all female from other towns/states/or WTF. While the USPS has size and weight limits of 70# on packages to compete with the other companies the women can not begin to pick up anything over 15-20#. They will pull up in my driveway and lay on the horn till I go out and carry the package in.

Some of these "heavy" packages are in small boxes and will easily fit into my large mail box.

I realize the postal employees have it hard in regards to job duties and time limits but something needs to change or improve if they are to stay competitive. FedEx, DHL and UPS seem to be doing well and operate their own planes.

I had a Fed Ex driver pull in my driveway, stopped 1\2 way down and then called me to 'come get my xxxxe or it was going back'

fortunately for me, I was there, went and got my xxxxe, and then had a long conversation with her boss,,,,


never had that issue with the post office or ups,

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Flat rate service to rural areas is a money loser for USPS.

smart post is the tactic they use,

delivered by UPS, USPS or FedEx depending on the area,

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FedEx, DHL and UPS seem to be doing well and operate their own planes.

What, So? Part of that FedEx revenue is servicing the USPS contract through its subcontracted and leased assets. The Post Office can't bring mail back "en vogue" for postage revenue, and they can't afford the pension. Operating it's own planes won't make up the shortfall.

USPS does not transport all it's own mail by ground either, there are several companies that run mail from hub to hub by truck, by contract,


I was using USPS Click N Ship, they were giving me a discount for my business , then stopped the discount,

a year goes by, (w\o discount, they are still cheaper than the others) and a post master from SC comes to see me,

sets me up with another shipping company, (XPS) that gives me a discount and integrates with Ebay and other shippers as well,,,

and a healthy discount, (tied in with Endicia somehow)

dryheat
12-01-2019, 11:21
I do a lot of shipping and I retired from the USPS, but all that kind of put me to sleep.

lyman
12-02-2019, 05:54
I do a lot of shipping and I retired from the USPS, but all that kind of put me to sleep.

well then,


you have the greatest insight into postal workings,

you should make is a quest to find RED's missing paperwork so his $500 lawyer will be happy

RED
12-03-2019, 01:27
well then,

you should make is a quest to find RED's missing paperwork so his $500 lawyer will be happy

My envelope was delivered sometime between Nov. 28 and Dec. 2. Apparently whoever the P.O. delivered it to stopped by the lawyer's office and left it leaning on the door.

Fed Ex once left a package at my house between the storm door and the entry door. The storm door could not latch because of the package. A thunder storm came through and destroyed the unlatched storm door. I called them and asked them to repair the door and they said "No way..." I explained that the package contained an Argentine issued 1911 (a C&R pistol) and the driver committed a serious crime when he didn't get a signature. They fixed the door the next day.

lyman
12-03-2019, 01:29
My envelope was delivered sometime between Nov. 28 and Dec. 2. Apparently whoever the P.O. delivered it to stopped by the lawyer's office and left it leaning on the door.

Fed Ex once left a package at my house between the storm door and the entry door. The storm door could not latch because of the package. A thunder storm came through and destroyed the unlatched storm door. I called them and asked them to repair the door and they said "No way..." I explained that the package contained an Argentine issued 1911 (a C&R pistol) and the driver committed a serious crime when he didn't get a signature. They fixed the door the next day.

glad you package was found,

Vern Humphrey
12-03-2019, 01:38
I had a Fed Ex driver pull in my driveway, stopped 1\2 way down and then called me to 'come get my xxxxe or it was going back'



I had a FedEx driver "deliver" a package to me -- the tracking information said it had been delivered. Calls to FedEx brought no joy.

A couple of days later, I was driving into town -- I live 3/4s of a mile off the county road -- and saw a strange thing in the woods. I stopped, got out and walked into the woods to inspect this thing -- it was a plastic bag knotted around a limb. Inside was my package.

Gun Smoke
12-03-2019, 03:28
UPS packages have been found in the middle of the hwy due to the driver leaving the rear door open.

lyman
12-03-2019, 04:08
I had a FedEx driver "deliver" a package to me -- the tracking information said it had been delivered. Calls to FedEx brought no joy.

A couple of days later, I was driving into town -- I live 3/4s of a mile off the county road -- and saw a strange thing in the woods. I stopped, got out and walked into the woods to inspect this thing -- it was a plastic bag knotted around a limb. Inside was my package.

placed an order with the CMP
was off the day it was supposed to be delivered,

working around the house and yard, stopped every now and then to pop the refresh on the computer to check status,

then, after the 3rd of 4th time, it said delivery attempted, no one home,,,


funny, since I live on a culdesac, and did not leave sight of the house, never saw a delivery,,

so I called,

seems the driver never made my street, and since it was delivered express , someone else brought it to me an hour later,


ground in this area is a separate division of fedex, and mostly delivered by contractors,

had a customer in my shop, waiting for the delivery (he was there for something else, but was planning on picking up his firearm while he was there,

same thing, showed delivery attempted, no one there,,

but since it was ground, I was told, tough, sorry, we will deliver tomorrow,,

free1954
12-04-2019, 08:00
I was just outside cleaning the ice and snow from mine and my neighbors walk and drive. it's been a real nuisance the last couple of days. the mail carrier came by and as my mail box is out on the street but my neighbors is up a steep walkway I told her if she comes by and the walk next door is covered in ice just put the mail in my box and I will deliver it. she spent a few minutes explaining that she HAS to deliver it where it's supposed to go.
as she drove away I looked to see half of my mail was addressed to the people across the street.

shadycon
12-04-2019, 02:27
I'm a good neighbor; I deliver my neighbors mail from time to time. Usually when we have a fill in driver!:1948:

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Did you know the VA sends narcotics thru the mail with no signature required?:eusa_shhh:

Gun Smoke
12-04-2019, 02:55
I'm a good neighbor; I deliver my neighbors mail from time to time. Usually when we have a fill in driver!:1948:

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Did you know the VA sends narcotics thru the mail with no signature required?:eusa_shhh:

Me too. It happens very frequently. If it is typical krap mail I put it back in my mail box and put the flag up for the carrier to note the following day that they put it in the wrong box and to deliver it to correct one. Mail suspected as being important like a foreclosure notice I will hand deliver to the neighbors box. I don't like to be seen opening someone else's mail box but most know me.

Good to know about the narcotics (just kidding).

free1954
12-07-2019, 09:56
anybody see this on the news? https://abcnews.go.com/US/multiple-fatalities-shootout-theft-ups-truck-florida-police/story?id=67531552 and the packages falling out behind the truck.
somebody's going to missing some mail.