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Right now 5 states have "Red Flag" gun seizure processes; CA, OR, WA, Conn, and Indiana.
If you live in CA:
https://www.gunlaw.com/when-guns-are-seized/
blackhawknj
04-03-2018, 02:27
A full bore attack on property rights, no ? What else can they seize ?
If given a notice my guns would become my relatives guns in separate houses. If they just storm in as in breaking and entering they would be met with lead like anyone else. If I have committed some kind of crime involving a gun then the gun is the least of my worries.
"...attack on property rights..." No such thing. You have the Constitutional right to possess firearms, but not property. The Fifth Amendment protects against arbitrary confiscation of property, but you have no Constitutional right to possess property.
Otherwise, it'll depend on where you are. Up here, cops are known for destroying firearms that are taken either as evidence or whatever other reason. Sometimes before a court case has been heard and without any court order.
Right to possess or bear arms? Subtle difference in the meaning.
blackhawknj
04-04-2018, 01:57
In his Message to Congress urging passage of the Ku-Klux Acts, President Grant noted that among the Klan's many crimes was:
"They have conspired to deny Negro citizens the right to own and bear arms."
What happens if your firearms are seized
Well , I guess you wouldn't have them anymore.
What happens if your firearms are seized
Well , I guess you wouldn't have them anymore.
This thread should read "What happens if YOU ALLOW your firearms to be seized"? Then you get what you deserve. Remember, it is not the Constitution that allows you to have firearms. The second amendment acknowledges the God given right for you to do have them. If you choose to give them up in the face of government force, I guess that is your business.
This thread should read "What happens if YOU ALLOW your firearms to be seized"? Then you get what you deserve. Remember, it is not the Constitution that allows you to have firearms. The second amendment acknowledges the God given right for you to do have them. If you choose to give them up in the face of government force, I guess that is your business.
Hello!!! And just how do you propose to disallow them to seize your firearms??? Suicide by cop is not going to save either you or your favorite squirrel gun. How many LEO's do you think you can kill and still keep your guns? "From my cold, dead fingers," is a nice slogan and sounds great until you realize those fingers are your own.
You can be sure that the police will carefully wipe them down before placing them gently in their respective cases taking great care not to scratch or damage them. Once they get to the place of storage, you can be sure it is a climate controlled space, and that they will be secured and carefully stored to avoid any scratches or damage..
If you believe that, I'll bet you also believe in Santa Clause, the Tooth Fairy, and the Easter Bunny..
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Hello!!! And just how do you propose to disallow them to seize your firearms??? Suicide by cop is not going to save either you or your favorite squirrel gun. How many LEO's do you think you can kill and still keep your guns? "From my cold, dead fingers," is a nice slogan and sounds great until you realize those fingers are your own.
Yup, I'm sure that's just what the Founding Fathers said. Not! Grow a pair for God sakes! Do you thing the patriots said " No sense in resisting, it would just be "suicide by Red Coat" . Ladies and gentlemen, we are losing this country because the left has bigger balls than us so called patriots. Antifa is not afraid to resort to violence for their cause. That is why they are getting many of the things they want. Just for instance, how many of you think that Martin Luther King and his peaceful demonstrations were responsible for bettering the civil right situation for blacks in the country? It was the violence of the Watts riots and other violent demonstrations that scared whitey into thinking maybe it was a good idea to start treating blacks like human beings. We had better take a lesson before it is too late. It may already be.
jon_norstog
04-11-2018, 07:04
When I was in the Coast Guard I got an 11-month respite from sea duty at Bodega Bay lifeboat station. A couple times Sonoma County sheriff's deputies would bring out a bunch of firearms for disposal. We'd take the weapons and a deputy out on the 44-footer and, once we got out in a few hundred feet of water, dump them. They were mostly junk, and I never saw anything like a Walker Colt or an engraved Mannlicher-Schoenauer go over the side. My guess is anything really nice got "diverted." The deputies really liked going for a boat ride ... would have loved to take them out in some of the bad weather we used to see.
jn
aintright
04-14-2018, 05:43
Hopefully the people will not let the left belittle them into a corner and stand proudly in numbers at the booths again . But the left will be doing everything in their power to flip the results , it will require vigilance on our side to stay on top .
Kenneth
They'll kick your door in and search. Anyone who resists will be shot or arrested. It'll all look right on the news and in the paperwork.
I think that most guys will submit and comply with the new firearms laws when the option will be to loose everything that they have. Their home, family, income, freedom, retirement etc. That's been my experience.
Any gun owner's patriotic stand against law officers will come out looking like some nut with weapons who resisted law enforcement.
Sucks, but there won't be any organized army of citizens who resist. Not for long. Just "individual whacko's" who the law had to take care of for Society's protection.
Best to have firearms that are not legally required to be registered.
Hide them away or they WILL be confiscated too. Hold out for sanity to return and the laws to change. IF they ever do.
They'll kick you door in and search. Anyone who resists will be shot or arrested. It'll all look right on the news and in the paperwork.
I think that most guys will submit and comply with the new firearms laws when the option will be to loose everything that they have. Their home, family, income, freedom, retirement etc. that's been my experience.
Any gun owner's patriotic stand against law officers will come out looking like some nut with weapons who resisted law enforcement.
Sucks, but there won't be any organized army of citizens who resist. Not for long. Just "individual whacko's" who the law had to take care of for Society's protection.
Best to have firearms that are not legally required to be registered.
Hide them away or they WILL be confiscated too. Hold out for sanity to return and the laws to change. IF they ever do.
while i agree with most of what you say will happen, will actually happen, i am so very thankful our founding fathers acted differently.
They were able to organize resistance against the British forces.
Former Cav
04-16-2018, 11:42
by WHO?
a crook or the government.
but then i repeat myself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As I understand it, if/when the new bump stock rule kicks in, there's no grandfathering. They're all unregisterable MG parts, with some finite time for their disposition. It will be interesting to see how that plays out.
blackhawknj
04-16-2018, 02:15
The main goal is to create a Surveillance and Snitch society.
Get a bump stock, wipe it clean, plant it in the trunk of an anti-gunner and .....
Sandpebble
04-16-2018, 04:32
Hello!!! And just how do you propose to disallow them to seize your firearms??? Suicide by cop is not going to save either you or your favorite squirrel gun. How many LEO's do you think you can kill and still keep your guns? "From my cold, dead fingers," is a nice slogan and sounds great until you realize those fingers are your own.
Ya know Red.... this is one where you and I totally agree . And lets not forget.... the law is the law... even if we as the minority don't like it
S.A. Boggs
04-16-2018, 05:34
In the public interest of being "safe" what exactly is public safety? The old adage of "One man's meat is another man's poison." could apply to almost any object. Some people have objected to large pickup trucks with enormous brush guards as being a danger if hitting another smaller vehicle. Will these be restricted as well or say large knives or rubber bands? Their is ways to bring about opinion on our side and that is will ridicule. Make what is being done as foolish and those who are doing it as goofy as possible. Ridicule is one thing that most humans detest being used against them. If the argument can be made to look stupid, less people will want to participate in it and will hopefully back out. I have seen people simulate auto fire by holding the weapon loosely or using a rubber band. Could we in a joking manner ask if rubber bands will now be serialized and registered? Humor and absurdity can be powerful weapons of counterpoint if used in a logical manner.
Sam
How many rubber bands did they find in Stephen Paddock's hotel room? Seems like a logical enough question.
S.A. Boggs
04-17-2018, 02:22
How many rubber bands did they find in Stephen Paddock's hotel room? Seems like a logical enough question.
Good question, "Inquiring minds want to know!" Society must guard itself against those deadly "assault" rubber bands and keep them out of the hands of children. Togor do you really need rubber bands, I think not. Rubber bands are dangerous in the wrong hands and must be banned for the good of society, what is wrong with plastic paper clips? I once worked with a woman who would shoot a person in the back with a large rubber band...see they are dangerous and must be controlled. Just think how many trees died to produce rubber bands, such a needless waste of mother earths resources, not to mention the air pollution. How many trucks/trains/ships polluted the air in transporting these dangerous devices. Did you know that anyone, including children, have ready access to these dangerous devices. I have heard that teachers have them in their desks at school and sometimes give them to children to use!:icon_e_surprised:
Sam
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