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djt20
08-27-2017, 05:42
i hurt my ankle jumping down a tree early this year....i tried pulling it back to place but it hurts too bad and i couldn't do it myself, my partner had no experience doing such thing so he was no help at all. the hunt came to an end, but i can't help but thing what if we were attacked? and i am sure this must have happened to people somehow somewhere. please f you have any experience in such circumstances plus share.

Thanks.

Allen
08-27-2017, 06:28
You would still have your gun.

Merc
08-27-2017, 06:44
Wear a hand gun in addition to your rifle if you think you need an extra measure of protection while hunting.

dryheat
08-27-2017, 08:57
So many comments I could make.

djt20
08-28-2017, 12:18
but anyone of you ever been injured and how did you deal with it? did the hunt ended there or you went on.

togor
08-28-2017, 04:39
Not sure what the question is. If someone gets hurt in the backcountry, then yes there is a situation to deal with. Has nothing to do really with being armed or not. Just had 2 of my kids in Wyoming mountains, rugged terrain, no cell service. They are taught to move deliberately, to consciously avoid injury, specifically because help is a long way off. Animals go their entire lives in the wild without injuring themselves carelessly. Humans can too if they just remember how.

JB White
08-28-2017, 06:50
Wear a hand gun in addition to your rifle if you think you need an extra measure of protection while hunting.

Have to be careful about where you are at. A lot of states do not allow for that. Carrying a sidearm afield during long gun or archery season could mean a whole lot of very expensive legal trouble.



Not sure what the question is. If someone gets hurt in the backcountry, then yes there is a situation to deal with. Has nothing to do really with being armed or not. Just had 2 of my kids in Wyoming mountains, rugged terrain, no cell service. They are taught to move deliberately, to consciously avoid injury, specifically because help is a long way off. Animals go their entire lives in the wild without injuring themselves carelessly. Humans can too if they just remember how.

Sometimes things just happen.


A friend was hurt when the limb he was on decided it was time to come off. Two thing went wrong for him.
A: He wasn't tethered off yet.
B: He was out alone.

Lucky he wasn't hurt more seriously from the fall. He made it out.
Lucky he wasn't left dangling in the tree like a carcass all alone.

Fortunately for me I've only fallen from bad footing in snow. Didn't break anything but my pride.

Merc
08-28-2017, 08:28
I'm sure the rules vary from state to state, and you should definitely check with local game or law enforcement officers, but if you're hunting (or biking on remote trails like me) in bear territory, there's always a risk of an encounter with an angry bear just trying to protect its territory or young. Here's a good case in point:

Www.Bulletsfirst.net/2014/09/08/carry-sidearm-go-hunting

I have a concealed carry permit which should allow me to be armed for self protection while biking, hiking, etc. anywhere in PA. However, I would always check to see if it's legal to carry a concealed gun for personal protection in other states. I would not consider doing it in NY, NJ, CA, IL and several other states that have gun laws that restricts such activity.

Sunray
08-28-2017, 09:26
"...what if we were attacked?..." By who or what?
Everybody should be trained in First Aid and CPR. Everybody should wear good, solid, boots when in the bush. Not runners or light shoes. And quit jumping down trees.
"...Wear a hand gun in addition to your rifle..." If you can't sort out a situation with a rifle, having a hand gun isn't going to help.

Ken The Kanuck
08-28-2017, 09:45
Came off the dirt bike while hunting a few years ago and did this, It finished off that hunt, but later in the season I got another trip in. That one was more of a road hunt, but I had a walking stick which allowed me to move around a bit.

KTK



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/kennethroy/footouch.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kennethroy/media/footouch.jpg.html)

djt20
08-29-2017, 12:55
Came off the dirt bike while hunting a few years ago and did this, It finished off that hunt, but later in the season I got another trip in. That one was more of a road hunt, but I had a walking stick which allowed me to move around a bit.

KTK



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/kennethroy/footouch.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kennethroy/media/footouch.jpg.html)

wow, this looks pretty bad, how long did it take you to get to help.

djt20
08-29-2017, 01:01
"...what if we were attacked?..." By who or what?
Everybody should be trained in First Aid and CPR. Everybody should wear good, solid, boots when in the bush. Not runners or light shoes. And quit jumping down trees.
"...Wear a hand gun in addition to your rifle..." If you can't sort out a situation with a rifle, having a hand gun isn't going to help.

Yes, this is what i am talking about, hunters should let some temporary medical aid...sometimes it can take forever to get a proper medical aid.
Most people i know say - Hunt with a Military Veteran, they are good with stitch and putting back broken bones and stuff, this is true but we cant have them around all the time.

togor
08-29-2017, 04:41
Looks like a Canadian mosquito bite.

Darreld Walton
08-29-2017, 06:09
Stop or control the bleeding. Clean and disinfect, then bandage a wound. Isolate busted bones and sprained joints.... All basic first aid stuff. THEN, build a fire, make shelter, and stay put till yer buddy or other help gets there when you don't show up at a pre-designated time and place.
Leave as detailed description as possible about where you're going, how you're getting there, who you're going with, and the very best estimate of when you intend to be back. Leave that, maybe even with a good, marked map, with someone you trust and can depend on. Maybe even the sheriff or fish cop. Then, don't deviate unless you have a way to let those changes be known.
I try to take a small first aid kit, a means of getting good drinking water, a hundred feet of 550 cord, a rope, game bags, a small tarp, fire starting materials, an axe or hatchet, a small saw....and I try to take enough with me to make at least a couple of decent small meals on the trail.
At my age, with the damage and ailments I've accumulated over the years, I've had to accept my limitations. I take my meds, including insulin and testing stuff with me, at least two or three days worth. I don't climb trees, rocks, go spelunking, or cross country skiing anymore. Know what you can reasonably do, and don't 'tickle the dragon's tail' out there!
Be smart, keep your head, stick to your plan. You'll do fine, Pilgrim.

Allen
08-29-2017, 06:14
If worse comes to absolute worse pour some of your beer on the wound to clean it.

Darreld Walton
08-29-2017, 06:17
If worse comes to absolute worse pour some of your beer on the wound to clean it.

Wouldn't that be alcohol abuse? (actually, a small flask of bourbon might be a better idea "just in case")

Ken The Kanuck
08-29-2017, 06:33
We had stopped for lunch and to do some target shooting.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/kennethroy/CraigandDavidSept08003.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kennethroy/media/CraigandDavidSept08003.jpg.html)

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I decided to take a ride on the old Yamaha my son had been using to hunt grouse and went over the handle bars

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v114/kennethroy/CraigandDavidSept08001.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kennethroy/media/CraigandDavidSept08001.jpg.html)

togor
08-29-2017, 07:01
Eye protection?

djt20
08-29-2017, 07:45
some spirit or gin but don't apply beer to a wound.

High Plaines Doug r
08-29-2017, 07:43
Something like this has happened to me twice, so far.
47 years ago my squad got shot at while we were in Cambodia in 1970. I had been bending over my pack, stuffing new rations into it when a round landed in front of me filling my face, eyes and eyelids with dirt. I was blinded for about 5 minutes trying to get my eyes clear. In the mean time, other stuff was going on.
More recently (17 years ago) I (like you) fell out of a tree but I broke my leg; split my meniscus and popped my fibula loose from my tibula. I hobbled/crawled back to camp, into my cot and waited for my partner who was disappointed ,to say the least, that our elk hunt was over.
I'm not sure what your question is but being blinded from the 1st situation was worse for that few minutes than the months of rehab resulting from the second.

High Plaines Doug r
08-29-2017, 07:49
Not sure what the question is. If someone gets hurt in the backcountry, then yes there is a situation to deal with. Has nothing to do really with being armed or not. Just had 2 of my kids in Wyoming mountains, rugged terrain, no cell service. They are taught to move deliberately, to consciously avoid injury, specifically because help is a long way off. Animals go their entire lives in the wild without injuring themselves carelessly. Humans can too if they just remember how.

"Some" animals go their entire lives in the wild Until they injure themselves carelessly. Humans can too. FTFY

togor
08-31-2017, 11:50
Oh I agree that for us bipeds the odds of a fall are greater. Accidents can happen but I still think there is value at any age in knowing how and practicing to move in rough/icy terrain, and yes, how to land to minimize injury. A lot of city people and yes seniors assume such movement is behind them.