Stevens 620 trench need help

[schoolbd]

Bought this today hoping it's legit , sure looks it to me. Its in the 27,000 serial range. Hope some advance collectors can share some info.
Thanks
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[Keydet92]

Schoolbd,

Please post a picture of the ordnance bomb, "P" proof and Stevens address roll stamp from the right side of the barrel. Do the serial numbers match between the barrel lugs, trigger guard and stock (# between the stock and receiver seen when stock is removed)?

[scosgt]

Looks good. They are almost never faked. But it matters if the numbers match.

[schoolbd]

Here's couple more photos, can't find a number on the end of stock due to decay, only part that does not match is magazine nut.3814238143

[Tom Doniphon]

It appears to be OK except for the screw in the barrel lug at the front of the magazine tube.

[schoolbd]

Yes Tom ,I replaced it with the correct one38144

[SPEEDGUNNER]

Man, that's a pup! Where did you turn up that old wardog? Love 'em with some honest wear...

[schoolbd]

Found it at a pawn shop in Florida

[scosgt]

What is a magazine nut?

[schoolbd]

Piece on the mag tube that seats against the receiver, I don't know what to call it ,just went by numrich schematic, lol.

[scosgt]

That does not get a number.
Receiver, stock, barrel assembly

[schoolbd]

Ok, but it has a number in the 24,000 on it? Any idea about what year my gun was made.
Thanks
Schoolbd

[Keydet92]

Schoolbd,

Is it a 24,000 or a 27,000 (from post #1) serial number? In my opinion there really is no reason not to post the full serial. Around 18,000 Model 620s were delivered to the US government and most (16,000) were made between March 1942 and June 1944 (serials 17,000-33,000) with the first trench guns being delivered in February 1943. There are no records to give exact production dates but you can make a guess based on that production range.

[Keydet92]

Sounds like the magazine locking lug is a replacement from an earlier Model 520 or Model 620, the serial number was commonly applied on those and they interchange. Your trench gun although called and marked as a Model 620, is actually Model 620A.

[schoolbd]

James serial is 27459, the mag lock was 244?? Can't remember the full no. and don't want to pull it back apart.

[schoolbd]

Also the butt swivel area had been filled in ,I was lucky to get that piece out without any stock damage ,before and after photo 3814738148

[Keydet92]

I have yet to find a Model 620A (or a military Model 620) with a serial number stamped on the mag locking lug, not saying it couldn't happen but you do see that on Model 520s from 1909 into the early 1930s and on early Model 620s from 1927 into the 1930s. Many of these earlier guns have the serial, or part of it, stamped on most of the parts. They strip out and get replaced.

Good job getting the patch out of the buttstock. Finding an original sling swivel may take some time. East Taylor LLC makes some replacement Stevens trench gun parts: http://www.partsforantiqueguns.com/Stevens_trench.html

But the sling swivel offered on their Stevens page is a Winchester style and will not fit the cut out for the flat metal plate style of the Stevens piece. Maybe someone else here has a source for an accurate reproduction. Other than that I'd keep an eye on eBay and Gun Broker. I've seen a couple parts kits from destroyed/de-milled Stevens trench guns come up for sale in the past year.

[schoolbd]

Have purchased a few products from east taylor, they seem to have good products but can not match the originals, I think the original 1903 springfield butt stock swivel will work for the trenchgun.

[Tom Doniphon]

The checkered wood forearm is probably not correct for a late production 620 trench gun. Those are usually found on the earlier made 620 Military riot guns.

[scosgt]

Actually, the military Thompson Sub Machine Gun sling swivel is the same. Commonly seen at gun shows.

Here you go:

http://www.bmgparts.com/products/ThompSwivel.jpg

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Thompson-1928-Sling-Swivel-/351886451154?hash=item51ee1121d2:g:JiEAAOSwm0JYDQ7 s

http://www.tommygunner.com/images/products/parts/milledslingswivel/milledslingswivel.jpg

http://www.tommygunner.com/pages/parts/

[scosgt]

Cause guess what?

Savage made Tommy Guns!
Same part from the same maker.

[Keydet92]

Schoolbd,

I agree with Tom, it looks like this 620 was pieced back together with parts from an earlier donor gun. There is an uncheckerd fore end for sale on eBay right now that would be perfect for your shotgun (1 day left): http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stevens-model-520-620-12-ga-shotgun-stock-forearm-/291927120047?hash=item43f83658af:g:p0EAAOSwHMJYFUJ 6

Good catch scosgt on the Thompson sling swivels. Just make sure you get the flat stamped steel plate (with the slot cut in the loop) and not the milled piece.

[schoolbd]

Ok ,thanks guys .

[scosgt]

If memory serves, the front swivel on the Thompson is the milled one you want - the one on the military fore end.

[schoolbd]

Ok thanks again.

[schoolbd]

Lightly sanded the serial no. Area of the buttstock and the serial is barely visible which appears to be correct 2745938234

[schoolbd]

Lightly sanded the serial no. Area of the buttstock and the serial is barely visible which appears to be correct 2745938234