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mike9905
06-16-2016, 05:18
I own a Colt Pocket Positive that once belonged to a woman who was an Army officer stationed in Europe during WWII. The revolver is blued, 2.5" bbl., .32 NP caliber; it is in perfect condition, not a scratch-until you look at the butt. The bottom of the pistol grip has been crudely filed to bare metal. I suspect it was once marked "United State Property" but can find no reference to this model as secondary martial arm. It may have been a police trade-in but I've never seen an ex-police pistol this clean. Thoughts?

PhillipM
06-16-2016, 07:23
Coincidentally, I was reading this today.

"During World War Two Detective Specials were made for the US Government, often with the old original pre-1933 square butt. It's believed that these were simply pre-war Police Positive Special frames fitted with 2 inch barrels as a war-time expedient."

http://www.coltfever.com/Detective_Special.html

mike9905
06-16-2016, 08:15
Thanks for the input Phillip. My PP serial number pegs it 1941-43 production. I've sent for a letter from Colt; should hear from them in 90-180 days.

free1954
06-17-2016, 02:59
would it have been issued to the u.s. government in 32 new police?

PhillipM
06-17-2016, 03:18
Thanks for the input Phillip. My PP serial number pegs it 1941-43 production. I've sent for a letter from Colt; should hear from them in 90-180 days.

You're welcome. Please post back when you get the letter.

mike9905
10-22-2016, 04:06
Well, I received my letter from the Colt archives today and the revolver was not U.S. Property marked. It was one of 27 revolvers ordered by and shipped to the National Gallery of Art, Washington, D.C., March 29, 1941. The markings filed off the butt were "N.G.A." followed by a number of 62 through 88. That's it. I know it belonged to a WAC officer who served overseas, but there is no evidence how she obtained it or if it went with her. Based on condition the revolver probably never left the factory box. End of story. Anything else is speculation.

kwill
11-18-2016, 05:46
Sorry I'm late to this thread but I'm wondering if the Colt letter shows that the guns went through Joseph Lorch?

mike9905
11-19-2016, 04:27
Sold to H.A. McBride, National Gallery of Art, shipped to Joseph A. Lorch, March 29, 1941. Please school me.

kwill
11-19-2016, 06:17
Joseph Lorch was a dealer/distributor in Washington D.C. and handled all the Colts that went to government customers. I've also sent you a PM. Thanks for you response.