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jon_norstog
03-21-2016, 12:00
To the list: looks like the ban on individual travel to Cuba has been/soon will be lifted. I haven't got the details yet, but am thinking about going down in the winter to visit and walk the Spanish American War battlefields, see if anything is left. My guess is the Cubans will be happy to fill me in on the details of their 20-plus year struggle against Spain as well as their own views on the American liberators. I would also guess that the only one of those sites I will be unable to visit will be Guantanamo!
jn
StockDoc
03-21-2016, 01:02
I read that there will be restriction to where you go and who you can talk to. You have to want to learn about their culture and their people, what ever that means. I imagine the Car Collector p[eople have already booked flights. I would too, like to visit the old Forts and visit the battlefield, would imagine any tours would have to include the Revolution battlefields as well as the Bay of Pigs.
blackhawknj
03-21-2016, 02:18
Recent pictures of San Juan Hill I have seen show it has been built on but the monuments are still in place. They will probably have special stores for foreign tourists only and I suspect they will limit travel to tour groups only that can be closely watched, stay only "approved" hotels, etc.
jon_norstog
03-21-2016, 03:49
I used Google earth on the area 'round Santiago. You don't get much sense of the relief but you CAN see that there have been changes.
Ken The Kanuck
03-21-2016, 05:21
My wife and her girlfriend went last year. I wasn't told about any places she couldn't go to. They stayed in a large resort area about an hour or so from Havana and took an old car into Havana and around looking at the old building, where Hemmingway stayed, etc.
All and all she said that she was not impressed, the hotels are sub-standard, the food is bland and the people are rude.
KTK
Wonder how much aid money bambam is going to offer the Cubans? He was in a closed door meeting with Castro to-day. Wonder if he does, will the Repubs put a stop on it?
PhillipM
03-21-2016, 08:14
To the list: looks like the ban on individual travel to Cuba has been/soon will be lifted. I haven't got the details yet, but am thinking about going down in the winter to visit and walk the Spanish American War battlefields, see if anything is left. My guess is the Cubans will be happy to fill me in on the details of their 20-plus year struggle against Spain as well as their own views on the American liberators. I would also guess that the only one of those sites I will be unable to visit will be Guantanamo!
jn
Take me with you!
Give it a few years. Know people who've gone(my Ma went years ago) and like Ken says, it ain't that great. Hot water in the assorted hotels and resorts is sporadic at best. Tipping hotel employees is in the form of deodorants and toothpaste.
The Car Collector people are going to be disappointed. Most of the 50's vintage cars are worn out and are owned by the State.
Remember Cuba is a People's Paradise.
blackhawknj
03-22-2016, 01:59
55 years of a Socialist paradise and the food is bland and the people rude. Why I'm appalled!
55 years of a Socialist paradise and the food is bland and the people rude. Why I'm appalled!
Yeah, they've wiped out the reef fishing, but I love the chicken and pork dishes.The people are great if you don't bring an arrogant American attitude and can live simply. Got to be one Harley with a Krag in scabbard mounted left somewhere. Lets go!
Shooter5
03-22-2016, 11:41
Check out this site:
http://cubanbattlefields.unl.edu/
Kragrifle
03-23-2016, 05:27
I would be loathe to follow in the footsteps of the Kenyan Muslim Rookie.
jon_norstog
03-23-2016, 09:45
Check out this site:
http://cubanbattlefields.unl.edu/
Thanks, Shooter! I've seen that before, but forgot about it. Las Guasimas was all jungle in 1898, it was kind of a foretaste of a VN ambush; at least that's my reading of the reports from back then. I might not make it any further than that beach at Siboney! War? What is that?
jn
CJCulpeper
03-23-2016, 09:59
Come to Cooba, Imperialist Pigs. But bring lots of Yankee dollars Many lots of dollars.
You won't find me going to viet nam, china, or the Soviet Union (russia and the eastern satelites)
PhillipM
03-24-2016, 01:33
After watching a short run tv series on how they keep those old cars running, I wish I could show up with a crate of small block Chevy parts. I'd live like a king!
psteinmayer
03-24-2016, 02:41
After watching a short run tv series on how they keep those old cars running, I wish I could show up with a crate of small block Chevy parts. I'd live like a king!
Amen to that! In the clip, I saw at least two different 51 Chevys (My dad and I shared a 51 for a while... it's one of my favorites!).
Since travel is opening up, maybe we can go and have a SAW commemorative match in San Juan Heights. Anyone want to go???
How long before O' dummie tries to either give Guantonimo <sp> back or make it a state? I expect him to try to give the base back to cuba.
Kragrifle
03-25-2016, 05:42
O'Dummie is anything but. Truth be known, he has performed brilliantly if you recognize his goals to be the dissolution of the United States of America as most of us knew it!
Griff Murphey
03-25-2016, 08:29
I have seen some reasonably recent photos showing Spanish warship wrecks. I think there is one cruiser hulk with a turret partway out of the water.
blackhawknj
03-25-2016, 03:10
If he turns the Gitmo detention over the Cubans he will be giving it to professionals who really know how to run prisons.
PhillipM
03-25-2016, 04:00
If he turns the Gitmo detention over the Cubans he will be giving it to professionals who really know how to run prisons.
Obama can't. It would take an act of Congress.
Shooter5
03-25-2016, 09:57
I have seen some reasonably recent photos showing Spanish warship wrecks. I think there is one cruiser hulk with a turret partway out of the water.
That would be neat to see. I ve seen the aft end of the Prinz Eugen above the water at Kwajalein atoll. Just don t get too close...
The NC state capitol grounds and the courthouse across the street from Pres Polk s house in Columbia TN have deck guns from the SpanAm war on display (iirc they are captured Spanish war trophies) and the Nauticus museum in Norfolk VA has a Spanish torpedo? on display from the naval battle at Santiago bay. Steubenville OH iirc? has a nice war memorial as well, and of course, Arlington has an excellent memorial which has some captured gun cannons.
Kragrifle
03-26-2016, 04:57
Rear mast at Arlington-foremast is at Annapolis at Trident Point.
I am ready to go. Trying to be as respectful as this Jarhead can be. My Grandfather was there many times as a Shriner in the 40's. I am sure that was no disrespect to my Grandmother. I will never tell those stories, But I would go in a heart beat. I graduated from Plantation High and grew up in South Fl. It has always been a dream of mine.
Semper Fi,
Always have a place in South Fl
Jim
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