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rayg
09-13-2015, 07:45
The bullet mikes out to only .307 not 311, maybe Finn? Can't quite determine/tell what the date is, hard to make out. I have about 30 loose rds of it. Ray

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Tuna
09-13-2015, 09:36
What are the numbers on the head stamp? They appear to be 60 and 53?
Sunray
09-13-2015, 09:42
If it's a '60' it's Russian State Factory at Frunze, Kirgisia, Russia.
Other number looks like '35' to me. That's Svenska Metallverken, Blikstorp, Sweden (1954 to 1965).
No '53' on the Cartridge Collector's page. http://cartridgecollectors.org/?page=headstampcodes#N
rayg
09-13-2015, 10:48
that's what the numbers appear to be. I just wasn't sure if it was a 60 or a 6C as it almost looked like a "C' and not a 0, but may be just a poor stamped 0, Ray
Sunray
09-13-2015, 11:46
"...that's what the numbers appear to be..." Which? snicker.
Magnifying glass or soft pencil and tissue paper to make a rubbing. That bullet is saying something too. An RN is kind of unusual for 7.62 x 54R.
Tuna
09-13-2015, 06:22
The 60 is the factory number as Sunray said and yes it is Russian. The 53 would be the date for 1953. It could have been made as a match round or as a police round. But the shield with the N in it is something I have not seen before.
rayg
09-14-2015, 05:41
Posted the question on another forum and one poster stated they were reloads with shot gun primers. I think he might be right as I examined the cases and the cases do exibit evidence normally seen with reloaded cases including the absence of the lacquer sealer at the neck, Ray

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Tuna
09-17-2015, 07:31
I doubt that is a shotgun primer and yes they could be reloads. I would pull one and weigh the bullet and powder charge. I would also check the diameter of the bullet below the crimping grove as it very well may be larger then above the grove.
NuJudge
09-24-2015, 02:50
Here's the best on-line reference I've found:
http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinAmmoID01.htm

The earliest cartridges had a round nose like that, but a longer bullet. I wonder if that is some of the short range practice ammo (Czech?) that was available for awhile. I bought some of it for a nephew to shoot, but I have not even looked at it. I got the ammo from SGA. Addendum: Nope, its not the Czech short range ammo.

The case on that ammo looks like the copper washed steel cases I saw on ammo captured from the Russians in the late 1930's. Can you confirm that the case is magnetic, and tells us whether the bullet is magnetic?