Krags in the movies

[CJCulpeper]

The Sun Shines Bright (1953) John Ford, Director

The Krag is at 44:30 and called out by name.

Good movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW-V6tyyp4o

[bruce]

IIRC, there are a few Krag's in Gunga Din. Wonderful movie. Sincerely. bruce.

[John Sukey]

And the Krags being fired from the redoubt as Rorke's Drift:icon_lol:

[Len]

And it appears the French Foreign Legion also favored the US Krag.

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[butlersrangers]

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"To Kill a Mocking Bird" - Atticus Finch dispatches a rabid dog with the Sheriff's 'sporterized' Krag. (colorized version attached for those who need it).

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[CJCulpeper]

This is the running list I have from scourring the Krag Forum and my own discoveries. Is the Foreign Legion picture from Morocco (1930)?

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McLintock! (1963)
http://free-classic-movies.com/movies-06/06-1963-McLintock/index.php

Hillbilliy Blitzkrieg (1942) Snuffy Smith is in the Army.
http://free-classic-movies.com/movie...rieg/index.php

The Real Glory, 1939
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9XUY84QB5s

Shoulder Arms (1918) with Charlie Chaplin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9-UGJm6NRM

The Big Parade with John Gilbert and Renee Adoree (1925)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNRkdqkiFZk (Stop at 32 seconds.)

PeaceOnEarth (1939) Hugh Harman cartoon
http://www.archive.org/details/PeaceOnEarth1939

The Lost World (1925)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJaXxY3citM

Boots and Saddles (1937) Gene Autry

Gunga Din

Farewell to Arms (1932)

For Whom the Bell Tolls

The Wind and the Lion

55 Days at Peking

To Kill a Mockingbird

King Kong 1933

The Fighting SeaBees 1944

The Sun Shines Bright (1953) John Ford, Director
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW-V6tyyp4o

Unidentified Three xxxxxxx short

Hogan's Heroes

Green Fire

Death Hunt staring Charles Bronson

Rough Riders

[Dick Hosmer]

Disclaimer - this is NOT a personal attack on anyone, especially CJC to whom we owe a great deal for his service - just a rant in general:

I am going to stick my neck waaaaay out here and remark that this thread - which regurgitates the same data ad nauseum, and seemingly never dies - is one (at least to me) of the most useless items on the forum. I hate to quote a certain public figure for whom I have nothing but contempt - but - "what difference does it make?" With the exception of "The Real Glory" and "The Wind and the Lion", the guns are just studio props used way out of context, to varying degrees. There is nothing educational, or interesting (since many of them are buggered) about the guns employed.

It boiled over - sorry - back under my rock.

[CJCulpeper]

You know what. I think you are right about your rant. Who needs fun irrelevent stuff. Heck I will even give up women and likker.

Just kidding about the likker. I can understand your fustration because I have the same thinking about other things on some other forums. But then I take a deep breath and (when I am in the States) a big swig of my buddy's corn squeezins and go do something else like talking to my guns or (when in Afghanistan) I look out over the berms and see things I hope to not see after we leave here.

The only thing interesting I find about krags in the movies is the fact there are so few krags in film and when they are found it is sense of amazement and surprize for me. Movie props? Yep. Who knows what their real condition were nor do I think that is a concern.

I have seen plenty of silent films before the middle 1920s where you could not swing a dead cat and not see a back side load of trapdoors. Holy cow pie. Birth of a Nation is a trapdoor man's wet dream or nightmare since it was a civil war epic and as we all know trapdoors were not around until after the War for Southern Freedom. Then there is The Invaders film in the Trooper-Indian fight scene is a fairly good depiction of trapdoors in action and in the correct setting.

I just wish the Krags had been used as movie props more often in the early days of film.

And if you think you need to climb under your rock for speaking out about what you feel mightily about then shame on you, Dick. You get back up here in the light and stand next to the rest of us.

With my very best regards

Culpeper

[John Sukey]

Since you are on about the wrong guns in movies, How about Rorke's drift where Chard and Bromhead are using revolvers that were not made until 1914?

[Dick Hosmer]

John, you have opened an area about which I must admit complete ignorance. But, if the revolvers are of British make, and reasonably close to what was used (but might not be available due to rarity) then I could understand.

What I do find terminally silly is Krags in India and Africa (other than TWATL, of course).

Further caveat, I'm not a big fan of movies in general, especially the early (corny) ones from the 20s/30s, so they have two strikes on them before they start to roll.

[John Sukey]

While Chard and Bromhead could have had Webleys, they would have been solid frame models or even an Adams or a Tranter.

[John Sukey]

Oh by the way, Custer had a Webley! (Not a joke)

[Dan Shapiro]

Banging my head!

I can see Dick's frustration.

Couple of years ago, my son came home from (high) school with a friend. My son saw me with a book in my lap, and asked what I was reading. I told him about the forensic examination at The Little Big Horn. I showed him a picture of George Custer. His friend said "That's not Custer, I saw him in a movie just last week (Errol Flynn). The discussion that followed showed that my son's friend was an idiot.

[Dick Hosmer]

Oh by the way, Custer had a Webley! (Not a joke)

Actually, I knew that, and, if I recall, it has never turned up, either.

[Southron]

Look at the bright side of things...the kid is NOT a voter yet!

[sdkrag]

I have heard some very good stories about the Greasy Grass and weapons used there. Friend of mine did construction in western SD for 40 years and had many native crew members. He heard things most whites ever would. The other side in the battle know who shot Custer and what weapon was used. Way better than the movies.

[Dick Hosmer]

And will this info ever be shared, or is it doomed to remain in the mists of time?

[Ned Butts]

And will this info ever be shared, or is it doomed to remain in the mists of time?
I am with Dick and would love to hear some details from the "other" side!!

[blackhawknj]

Nobody's mentioned Rough Riders yet ?

[Dick Hosmer]

I am with Dick and would love to hear some details from the "other" side!!

At least the type of weapon used could be divulged, without fear of reprisal. And, I would hope that the long-dead person might be named as well. Bringing up such stories without any follow-through is really kind of counter-productive in my opinion. If the tale is true it deserves to be backed up - if false/hearsay/etc. it would have been better left untold. It has always been assumed that the "other side" knew more than they were letting on - maybe it is time for the information to come out of the closet? History is history - a bell cannot be unrung. Yes, I can understand that in the immediate aftermath there would have been good reasons to keep silent, but in today's political climate any living descendents would almost certainly be feted and fawned over, rather than prosecuted.

[Kragrifle]

I love Krags where ever you find them. Did anyone notice that the Krag rifle used in the Foreign Legion movie is equipped with the four receiver parts (side plate with a hole, the brass guide, screw to hold same and a follower with a cut out to clear the brass guide) that lets them shoot the slightly shorter blank cartridges in repeater mode? I just recently was able to find one of the rifles, having owned a carbine version for awhile. There is mention in the second Mallory book that these alterations were done at the Benecia arsenal. The rifle I have is marked with an "S" that stands for a famous old movie prop house, the name of which escapes me at the moment.

[JimF]

It escapes me also . . . .was it "Stenhouse" or something similar?

[Dick Hosmer]

Stembridge Rentals, IIRC

[butlersrangers]

Douglas Fairbanks, Jr. as Sgt., 'Tommy' Ballantine, captured in a Thuggee Temple (RKO - Gunga Din - 1939).

Yikes!

It does not look good for the handsome Sergeant, as he's apprehended by two Thugs, with 'Trapdoor' Springfield and possible Krag 'school rifle' (note - hand-guard appears to have sight protecting hump, but, forearm looks mighty short).

Hey, it kind of look like Dick Hosmer. Maybe he'll get those pieces for his collection!

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[sdkrag]

I am with Dick and would love to hear some details from the "other" side!!

Actually he is in the final stages of a book. One tidbit I recall is that Custer was killed by a 14 or 15 year old using a derringer. Lakota/Dakota seemed to love derringers. Crazy Horse was shot in the face with one for stealing a guys wife. This gentleman also owned the Two Moons SAA. It is a documented Greasy Grass weapon taken by several Arapahoe braves from a trooper and awarded to the Cheyenne Two Moons for saving their hides when they were mistaken for Crow Scouts before the battle and then mistakenly killed a Sioux brave during the battle. I actually got to hold that weapon and even fondle it a little.

[musketjon]

Not a movie but, Sgt. Schultz in Hogan's Heroes carries a Krag.
Jon

[Kragrifle]

The Wind and the Lion is a great movie, by the way, even if Candice Bergen is in it.

[DRAGONFLYDF]

Just saw a whole bunch of Krags in the movie Green Fire.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047050/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

[S.B.]

Lee Marvin carried as a Mountie in "Death Hunt" staring Charles Bronson.
Steve

[Peconga]

The Wind and the Lion is a great movie, by the way, even if Candice Bergen is in it.

I love the Wind and the Lion as well; one of my favorite movies. Although historically inaccurate, the U.S. Navy and Marines use Model 1896 Krag rifles throughout the movie to great effect. However, at the time the movie was set (1904) they would still have been carrying the Winchester-Lee rifle in 6mm Lee. The director, John Milius, was a famous gun nut and acknowledged the inaccuracy, but explained that the simply couldn't find enough operating Winchester-Lees to use for production, so settled for the Krag.

http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/8/8c/Krag.jpg/600px-Krag.jpg

http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/5/53/Krag2.jpg/600px-Krag2.jpg

[usmc69]

55 Days at Peking

[psteinmayer]

Saw this one today, Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk
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[CJCulpeper]

The Fighting SeaBees 1944. The Duke captures a rare Japenese Krag while leading the counter attack only to get shot and burned up and not get the girl in the end.

[S.B.]

I just finished watching Green Fire and Krags are definitely used in this. The stocks go clear to the end of the barrel so, I'm think Danish?
Steve

[Rick the Librarian]

55 Days at Peking

As I recall there were Mausers, not Krags, in 55 Days at Peking. Have to go and watch it again, maybe.

[CJCulpeper]

Hillbilliy Blitzkrieg 1942 Snuffy Smith is in the Army.

http://free-classic-movies.com/movies-04c/04c-1942-08-14-Hillbilly-Blitzkrieg/index.php

[CJCulpeper]

Today I bring you a Krag in the Movies from Frank Capra's Flight. Released in 1929 the film has a little something for everyone. Lewis guns on Bi-planes, heavy machine gun on the ground, and, of course, Krags in the movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bezKvD3b2sI


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[Kragrifle]

Old thread, but a great one. As for The Wind and the Lion, by 1900 the Navy was replacing the Lee Navy with the Krag. By 1904 (if that is when the movie is taking place) only the most remote naval stations would be using the Lee Navy. Soon thereafter the 1903 Springfield was being issued (remember Sand Pebbles?).

[Kragrifle]

Sand Pebbles was set in 1926 and Steve McQueen used a very nice looking 1903 Springfield. Imagine my disgust when I saw the movie poster! 1903 indeed!51029

[Parashooter]

Thought I remembered a BAR somewhere besides the poster -

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[JimF]

Sand Pebbles was set in 1926 and Steve McQueen used a very nice looking 1903 Springfield. . . . . . .

Remember the scene where he shot the Chinese guy who was about to be ?skinned alive? . . . . then promptly THREW THE RIFLE OVERBOARD!!! . . . .Sacrilege!!

[Kragrifle]

OMG! I must have blocked out that part!

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WOW! A BAR! I need to watch that movie again!

[Dick Hosmer]

No you don't - VERY disappointing ending . . .

[CJCulpeper]

The Hoodlum Saint (1946)

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[Kragrifle]

Just watched the trailer. Angela Lansbury and Esther Williams !

[JOEZ]

Just got done watching THUNDER ROAD w/Robert Mitchum. In the movie, Mitchum's father uses a Krag to defend his still from the REVENOOERS.

[RicM]

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[Dick Hosmer]

51312. Not Krag, 1903.

[RicM]

That I know I have an '03 also :icon_rolleyes: I posted it cause earlier post it was mentioned about Steve McQueen possibly had a Krag in the Sand Pebbles and it was corrected it was an '03. So I figured on posting it up to show it was an '03 not a Krag :)

[blackhawknj]

The 2016 Norwegian movie Kongens Nie-released in English as The King's Choice. The Norwegians fighting the 1940 invasion. Very well done.