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goo
01-27-2015, 03:53
i usta know but i forgot.

thx for the help, gents.

goo

Alan De Enfield
01-28-2015, 09:55
Its the letter prefix.

Example :- Production would start at A0001 thru to A9999 then B0001 thru B9999 etc until they got to Uxxxx and your rifle was born.

Goo - can you re-post picture of the guy on the motorbike with the traffic cone, I've been trying to find it for ages and could use it.
Tnx

goo
01-28-2015, 11:32
i don't think that's correct. most smles don't have a letter prefix

the same ser no. on the bolt and nose piece don't got no 'u'

https://www.flickr.com/photos/29251424@N00/15767714354/sizes/o/

Alan De Enfield
01-28-2015, 11:45
Whilst not a huge number - every SMLE I have seen has had a prefix letter.

Are you thinking about the U that it is on the No4 rifles signifying South African ownership ?

Thanks for the photo link.

SMOKEY
01-28-2015, 12:22
Goo, your alive.

Darreld Walton
02-01-2015, 12:16
I understood that the letter prefix was part of a "code" denoting the place of manufacture. I am by NO means an Enfield authority, just something I read......

JB White
02-01-2015, 03:56
I understood that the letter prefix was part of a "code" denoting the place of manufacture. I am by NO means an Enfield authority, just something I read......

That system didn't come into use until the 1950's. The WW2 system used an assigned number block (where the first digit of the assigned 5 digit block) indicating the manufacturing facility. That was British production only.

North American production was different though. C was the indicator for Savage who used a numeric prefix. For example 0C12345 then 1C12345 etc. Long Branch (Canada) used the letter L for their indicator.

Lithgow stayed with letter prefixes to show a rollover throughout as did Ishapore.

5Batt
02-01-2015, 09:49
BSA started MkIII production in 1907 continuing on where they left off with the Mk1 with the letter prefix T with the prefix U appearing also in 1907, U seems to have been used up until about 1912 when they moved on to V then on though the rest of the alphabet before starting back at the beginning.

My 1907 BSA U2007
http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd509/5thBatt/1907%20BSA/1907markings.jpg (http://s1223.photobucket.com/user/5thBatt/media/1907%20BSA/1907markings.jpg.html)
http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd509/5thBatt/1907%20BSA/07MKIIIsn.jpg (http://s1223.photobucket.com/user/5thBatt/media/1907%20BSA/07MKIIIsn.jpg.html)

My 1911 BSA U76498
http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd509/5thBatt/1911%20BSA%20MkIII/1911BSAMkIIImarkings.jpg (http://s1223.photobucket.com/user/5thBatt/media/1911%20BSA%20MkIII/1911BSAMkIIImarkings.jpg.html)
http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd509/5thBatt/1911%20BSA%20MkIII/1911BSAMkIII1.jpg (http://s1223.photobucket.com/user/5thBatt/media/1911%20BSA%20MkIII/1911BSAMkIII1.jpg.html)

1917 BSA with a G prefix
http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd509/5thBatt/1917%20BSA%20MkIIIstar/17BSAmarkings.jpg (http://s1223.photobucket.com/user/5thBatt/media/1917%20BSA%20MkIIIstar/17BSAmarkings.jpg.html)
http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd509/5thBatt/1917%20BSA%20MkIIIstar/17BSA5.jpg (http://s1223.photobucket.com/user/5thBatt/media/1917%20BSA%20MkIIIstar/17BSA5.jpg.html)



1918 BSA with a K prefix
http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd509/5thBatt/1918%20BSA%20MkIIIstar/18BSA3.jpg (http://s1223.photobucket.com/user/5thBatt/media/1918%20BSA%20MkIIIstar/18BSA3.jpg.html)
http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd509/5thBatt/1918%20BSA%20MkIIIstar/18BSA5.jpg (http://s1223.photobucket.com/user/5thBatt/media/1918%20BSA%20MkIIIstar/18BSA5.jpg.html)

Alan De Enfield
02-02-2015, 09:12
Thanks 5BATT - I was beginning to doubt my own rifles when Goo said that SMLEs dont have prefix letters.