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PhillipM
01-02-2015, 10:01
I'm not a huge country music fan, but that song popped in my head when I saw this WWII pic. I've no context, I suppose since he has lockbar sights and gloves it's somewhere in the ETO.

http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/15/55/99/36/m1_in_10.jpg

Col. Colt
01-03-2015, 01:03
If it's ETO, must be late - note the web sling with the En Bloc hanging from it! I always thought web slings were Korean War period.
I like the crumpled up Lucky Strike pack, too! CC

fjruple
01-03-2015, 01:34
I think maybe Korea. I thought the Lucky Strike cigarette packs were green in color instead of white during the later part of WWII.

--fjruple

jsaviano
01-03-2015, 04:27
I once got a pack of Lucky Strike cigarettes in my c-rats in 1964 at Ft. Dix. The label was green.

IditarodJoe
01-03-2015, 04:38
I believe the white Lucky Strike package and the web sling were both introduced in late 1942.

Liam
01-03-2015, 06:36
Perhaps a reenactment photo. Guys I know who partake go the extra mile to "weather" and age the photos they take. The Lucky Strike box seems fortuitous.

Liam
01-03-2015, 07:00
Found it on Milsurps website, posted last year. A description is below the image.
http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y423/liamflanagan/garand_zpsadaabbf7.jpg

us019255
01-03-2015, 07:48
"The Lucky Strike green has gone to war." -- Advertisement line during WWII. Supposedly to save Chromium for the war industry. Chrome oxide is a good, stable green color.

Rock
01-03-2015, 11:44
http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/15/55/99/36/m1_in_10.jpg

When hanging loaded clips on the sling, as shown in the photo, one can end up with some 'high rounds' when the clip is suddenly yanked off the sling during a fast reload.

Hanging clips on slings, straps and pockets probably started the habit of striking the bullet tips against a hard surface, e.g. stock, which resulted in those bullet tip dings we often see on stocks.

PhillipM
01-03-2015, 03:25
I think it would be hard to move cartridges forward reoVing the clip from the sling because the clips are embossed to hook into the extractor groove.

Rock
01-03-2015, 03:48
I think it would be hard to move cartridges forward reoVing the clip from the sling because the clips are embossed to hook into the extractor groove.

One would think that but I've tried it. Once in awhile a cartridge moves forward and ties up loading. The further the sling is jammed into the cartridge stack the more likely a round gets pulled out.

Griff Murphey
01-03-2015, 06:53
I read the bit about it being from official sources but it certainly looks awfully clear for a WW-2 vintage front line snapshot...

Ed Byrns
01-04-2015, 06:02
I believe this is a picture of a member of the 1st or 2nd Battalion of the 30th division between October 8th thru the 12 of 1944.
Both Battalion took heavy loses during their spearhead into Aachen and thru the north eastern region above Aachen.
The 1st Battalion received a Presidential Unit Citation for their action.
My Dad was a member of the 2nd Battalion of the 30th Division .
Respectfully submitted
Ed Byrns

Ed Byrns
01-04-2015, 06:36
I left out that 120th Infantry Regiment,of the 30th Division was the regiment and it was the
1st and 2nd Battalion of that regiment.

Col. Colt
01-04-2015, 03:40
Some of the Press Cameras from that time took VERY Good Images! The old Speed Graphic had some good, prewar lenses available, and in the larger formats, the quality was often quite good, due to the large negative, unlike 35MM. If everything lined up right, such an image is not unreasonable. CC