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Guamsst
10-26-2013, 03:14
I have been searching high and low for a Webley MkVI that wasn't overpriced, mismatched and cut down.

I found one today at the Tyler gunshow in fair condition. It was marked $250. Cut down cylinder for .45ACP, brown Bakelite grips had a chunk out of the bottom on one side and it has a broken spring on the thumblatch for the break over. Guy agreed to $200 and I was happy to get it.

Oh, Did I mention it is NZ marked?

I think for my first one I did pretty darn well, but no idea what the value should be. Only the second NZ marked weapon I have seen.

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Guamsst
10-26-2013, 03:16
Oh, 1919 production with a 9/38 stamp to the rear under the hammer.
Guamsst
10-27-2013, 07:37
Sorry, it was dark when I was checking markings, 9/39 stamp.

Anyone care to give a rough estimate of the value.
John Sukey
10-27-2013, 02:42
The barrel latch spring can be found at www.midwayusa.com
item 625-719 for the .455
and
item 657-068 for the .38
Of course they are not original but they do work
Guamsst
10-27-2013, 08:30
Thanks John, I appreciate it. I hadn't even had time to look yet.
John Sukey
10-28-2013, 10:31
Just a small add. Buy 45Auto rim brass instead of .45ACP. You can use the same dies to load it as you would use for 45 ACP. You just need a different shell holder. The other plus is you don't need those half-moon clips.
.455 ammo has a muzzle velocity of 620FPS where .45ACP has a higher muzzle velocity. Just makes it more pleasent to shoot
Guamsst
10-28-2013, 04:30
John, would this conversion have been done by the military in NZ? seems reasonable to have been done in 39 with a war on and 45ACP being a more universal cartridge by then.
Wreck Checker
10-30-2013, 08:58
The conversions were performed by the importers in the 1950's - 1960's. Made the revolver easier to sell on the U.S. surplus market when chambered for the cheap & plentiful .45 A.C.P. at the time. Sadly, the conversions probably cuts the collector value in half today. You did well though; The converted revolvers seem to go for $400 - $500 in Florida.
Barryeye
10-31-2013, 01:28
I’d like to wade in here and give an expert “kiwi” opinion on this but I can’t. Have lived in this country for 40 of my 65 years but know very little about NZ marked arms. Collecting NZ marked arms is very popular here and as a result there is a premium on them. I let the local purists go for them.
Whilst I am interested in pistols I am only licensed to collect long arms and frankly I am not in a financial position to enter that expensive field. However I find this thread interesting and will bring it to the attention of some of my pistol collecting mates.
rayg
10-31-2013, 03:59
I found that if you use rimmed 45 cases you might want to raise the gun up each time you shoot when using the recommended light loads of powders like Unique so the powder rests against the primer, if so you will get better and more consistent burning of the powder and better accuracy. Those cases are much longer then the 455 cases. Possibly some wadding/cotton packing put in the case to hold the powder against the primer would work. Not sure if that would be ok in a revolver but don't see why not, Ray
Guamsst
11-01-2013, 06:13
The conversions were performed by the importers in the 1950's - 1960's. Made the revolver easier to sell on the U.S. surplus market when chambered for the cheap & plentiful .45 A.C.P. at the time. Sadly, the conversions probably cuts the collector value in half today. You did well though; The converted revolvers seem to go for $400 - $500 in Florida.

I was reading up on it and now I just find it odd they didn't do the conversions in the commonwealth countries. Considering there was a joke in the armories that the ration of .455 ammo was 2rds per man per year due to the shortages.

Collector value seems safe on this one. I think I will take it to Tulsa and ask around next weekend. If someone wants to give me $1,000 I'd probably take it, but for now I want to keep this one and wish I still had my NZ marked No1Mk3.

and one more pic.

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BruceHMX
11-07-2013, 06:02
Do you have any interest in an NZ marked 22 trainer?