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richard pries
04-22-2013, 10:32
looking for a 1 piece rear scope mount that goes where the rear sight fits . please contact me via pm . thanks dick

Griff Murphey
04-28-2013, 07:50
Try S&K Instamounts. They list one.

richard pries
04-29-2013, 04:06
thank you (GIFF)

chuckindenver
04-29-2013, 10:18
what the heck is a P17?
is that some fancy air plane? or top secret bomber.

Devil Dog
04-29-2013, 01:05
Pattern 17......But I still don't know what that is?

richard pries
04-30-2013, 11:32
it is a 1917 eddystone enfield

Doug Rammel
04-30-2013, 03:04
Chuck

The last time I did that you is I was being a smart a$$. So here is back at you. :icon_lol:

daveboy
04-30-2013, 06:40
Richard, I think Chuck is pointing out that technically there is no such thing as a P-17. As soon as I saw the title of your post, I just knew someone would correct you. The British contracted with Winchester, and Remington (at their Eddystone, PA factory), to produce their Pattern 14 rifle. This rifle was chambered for the British .303 round. Previous British rifles were formally known as Short Magazine Lee Enfield rifles, SMLEs, or more commonly Enfields. So, the Pattern 14 rifle became known as the P-14 or P-14 Enfield.

When America entered the war, the production from these plants were changed to produce almost exactly the same rifles, only in .30-06 caliber. These rifles were officially known as the U.S. Model 1917. However, they continue to be called P-17, P-17 Enfield, or American Enfield. You are referring to it the way most people do. But, sometimes, particularly on gun forums, words matter.

I have been taught (corrected) many times, as we all have.

daveboy

chuckindenver
04-30-2013, 09:00
no,,i was being a smart ars,,..its a pet peeve...i dont collect British weapons..only U.S. , said rifle is a Model of 1917...even says so on the top of the ring...noplace does it say P17.. lol
i rebarreled a 1917 for a guy a few years ago,.
when he called to pick up his rifle, he says, have my p17 done yet? i replied...no, i dont have a P17..he stumbled a while..
then said..didnt i drop off a P17? no you didnt..iv never had a P17 before..and dont know what that even is..
he say quiet for a min...he said...how bout a 1917? yup, have one of those.. done and ready for service...lol.
that was priceless.. Old Marine new better...and got a chuckle out of it...

richard pries
05-02-2013, 06:13
I was told the 303 was a p14 and the 30-06 was a p17

chuckindenver
05-02-2013, 08:10
the U.S. model...is called and marked MODEL OF 1917
no such weapon as a P17...though many call it that, i was poking fun...

Devil Dog
05-03-2013, 09:24
the U.S. model...is called and marked MODEL OF 1917
no such weapon as a P17...though many call it that, i was poking fun...

So was I.

richard pries
05-03-2013, 10:25
I am so glad to be set straight now i feel a lot smarter just wait till i get my 30-07 gun then you can pick on me for that

Haz-Boy
05-06-2013, 09:41
I'm sure glad I saw this Post.

My questions have NOTHING to do with a scope mount for the M-17.

**IF I'M IN ERROR BY POSTING THESE QUESTION HERE.....I'LL GLADLY MOVE THEM TO A NEW POST/THREAD** I saw all the "chatter" on this Post and it pretty much goes with what I'm asking about. Please let me know. Thanks!!!

I was "schooled" by a WWII Vet who got out of the Philippines before it was invaded by the Japanese. He carried an M-17 while he was there. When he returned to the States.....he went from Depot to Depot during the WAR and made sure the Fighting Men had the Rifles to do Battle with.

He told me the difference between a British P-14 and an American M-17.

Now the following is what seems to be a different-story than what he told me:

He told me that any USA-manufactured MODEL 17 Eddystone, Winchester, and Remington did NOT have any Eagle-marked parts.

He said those markings/stamps were use pretty much exclusive for the P-14's. The Eagle-Stamp was a British PROOF-mark, exclusively for the P-14’s.

Now he did see a few M-17's that had Eagle-Stamped Parts....but....those parts were removed and replaced with Non-Eagle Stamped Parts at the various Depots he was at.

I what he told me correct??? I don't have any literature on the M-17. I was going on what he told me and unfortunately he passed away back in 2011. My Web-Search hasn’t produced much either. I’m sure the info is on there….I just can’t seem to find it…………

I got 2 bag-o-parts 10 years ago with a mixture of parts. I had more Eddystone and Winchester parts so I ventured on getting those parts to make-up-a-rifle.

Parts are hard to find, especially W-marked. I found some parts but a few of them have the Eagle-Stamp.

I don’t want to commit to buying these parts IF the Eagle-Stamp isn’t correct.

Also……..ALL…..the E-Marked parts I've gotten in the past 10 years did NOT have the Eagle-Stamp.

I’d greatly appreciate some guidance from those who are waaaaaaaaaaaay more knowledgeable that I.

Thanks in advance!!

Take care…………Jay

chuckindenver
05-07-2013, 06:21
eagles head and numbers are U.S. markings.

Haz-Boy
05-07-2013, 06:43
Thanks for the info!!

Does that mean all the parts that are NOT marked...are not US made and most likely from a P-14?

chuckindenver
05-07-2013, 07:34
pick up a C.S. Ferris book on the 1917...that will answer all your questions.

Haz-Boy
05-07-2013, 07:51
Thanks.........