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5MadFarmers
03-19-2013, 03:34
Not 1911 related but some of you are proficient in the pistols of the Germans. I just came into some Luger tools and am curious about the markings. The tools were together with some 19th century US combo tools. 6 Luger tools total:
1) WAA eagle thing with 13? below. The 3 and the number after that are very weak. No "WAA" - just the eagle (weak also)
2) Sideways 42.
3) Another of those eagles. 655 below. No "WAA" - just the eagle.
4) A "box" with some horizontal lines inside with another line diagonal over them. A "W" below.
2 no markings.

Curious about the 3rd digit in the 13?, is the 42 German military? What is that box/W thing?

Thanks for clues.

Johnny P
03-19-2013, 04:50
1. Pretty sure it is an Eagle/135. The E/135 was first used in 1941 (replacing the E/655) and was used through the end of Mauser P.08 production in 1942.

2.The 42 is a replacement Mauser tool. Mauser used a S/42 or 42 on a variety of replacement parts, including the loading tool.

3. Eagle/655. The E/655 was used from the latter part of 1939 production into 1941 production.

4. Picture sure would be nice. There was a W154 acceptance mark used on some of the 1935 Lugers, but it looks like an H laying on it's side with W on the left side and 154 on the right side.

The tools with no markings are most likely WWI DWM manufacture. There was a directive put out in WWI for the placement of acceptance marks on all the parts of the Luger, plus the tools. Erfurt adhered to the directive, but DWM did not. The WWI tools that are marked have an acceptance mark of a fancy script letter (identifying the inspector) under a crown.

Johnny P
03-19-2013, 05:08
Left to right:

Eagle/135

42 Code

Eagle 655

While this is not the tool I described, it has the sideways H with the O on one side and 37 on the other. This one dates to 1934.

http://i46.tinypic.com/i5nno8.jpg

5MadFarmers
03-20-2013, 05:19
That's them. The 135 I have is very weak. The W is the mystery then.

http://5madfarmers.com/cmp/luger.jpg

Johnny P
03-20-2013, 08:03
My first inclination is to say the Shield/W tool is a fantsy/bogus tool, but it has been seen previously. I have no idea what it is at this moment. Research continues.

Hecklerusp45
03-26-2013, 08:12
Any of them for sale?