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ArmsMonkey
02-24-2013, 04:16
Saw some nice 1903s on armswarehouse
I love my '03s, I can't say I have alot of them, well, I guess it depends on who I compare myself to, lol. I saw some on armswarehouse that look pretty decent. One I noted one that stated that it was a low number rifle, can anyone tell me what this means?

Dan Shapiro
02-24-2013, 07:27
In a nutshell:

The Magic Numbers are any rifle below 800,000 for Springfield Armory and 286,506 for Rock Island Armory. The reason these rifles are considered unsafe to fire is due to improper heat treatment when they were manufactured.The ammunition of the time was thought to be a contributing factor as well. The method of determining the proper heat treatment was less than scientific in that the men who were doing the heat treatment used the color of the steel to judge whether the correct temperature had been reached, When these rifles failed they shattered often causing injury to the shooter. Rifles manufactured after 800,000 and 286,506 received a double heat treatment and temperatures were measured with instruments rather than "by eye". Many of these original rifles were not withdrawn from service and are still on the market today.

Here's an interesting article on the subject:

http://m1903.com/03rcvrfail/

Rick the Librarian
02-24-2013, 07:56
The above link may be regarded as an "op-ed" and has some flaws. It does provide some food for thought.

Darreld Walton
02-25-2013, 01:08
Nope, I'm not gonna take the bait.....I am NOT gonna take the bait!!!

Rick the Librarian
02-25-2013, 07:06
Thank you, Darreld - I should have kept my [electonic] mouth closed, as well.