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ncblksmth1
01-20-2011, 04:14
Anybody know about sporter rifles (cigarette rifles) from Germany post WWII. Just picked up one with engraving and double set triggers. Would like to know more than that though.

Caliber is 8x57 with a J just after it.
Two leaf rear sight no scope rings.
Hand made sling hooks
Double set triggers
engraving on reciever rings and trigger guard group.
Name under barrel is Herm Wen-Rauch

Bob

randy langford
01-21-2011, 08:45
Bob pictures would help if you can post a few. As you already know these were made post war as a way to make a living in post war Germany or traded for cigarettes hence the name given to them.

da gimp
01-23-2011, 08:30
have a Steyr 98 sporter in .30-06, double set triggers, made for a local attorney who was in Army intelligence, prewar, war time & post war Europe. Those double set triggers take some getting used to, do not use gloves after setting the triggers.He'd had em use a Lyman longslide peep for the rear sight on ours, post war gunmakers & gunsmiths were eager to please their few customers, v v g quality work.

da gimp

RED
01-23-2011, 09:57
The "J" stands for the German word "Infanterie" and indicates a bore diameter of .318. An S designation is for "spitzer" and has a bore diameter of .323 and used a round nose bullet. Do not shoot the available ammunition until you have the barrel slugged to make sure you have the right ammo. You are probably going to have to hand load as .318 ammo in the States is pretty rare. Kynoch and Woodleigh produce ammunition and bullets and years ago there was a Hawk Bullet Co. in the U.S. that did.

OH, I just remembered you can swage .323 down to .318.

mike webb
01-24-2011, 10:12
Definitely 8x57J is the old .318 diameter ammo used in the 1888 Commission rifle. Modern .323 dia. loads are a no-no.

ncblksmth1
01-25-2011, 07:01
Bob pictures would help if you can post a few. As you already know these were made post war as a way to make a living in post war Germany or traded for cigarettes hence the name given to them.

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ncblksmth1
01-25-2011, 07:12
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